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Forever Young 07-19-2016 12:33 PM

Original negatives- underrated? Show yours
 
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As many of you know, I am an original photo collector. That will never change as it is my hobby passion.
That said, I have recently been facinsted in original negatives(glass, acetate and slides/from camera etc. ). Perhaps it is because they are part of the photo process. They are the closest link to the photographer other than the camera. They also give me the ability to make the highest quality prints that no one else has. They are true 1 of 1s.
Anyone else find them undervalued /interesting?

The knock is that they are hard to display. I think they would actually be neat displayed with a corresponding original print.

Attached is a Burke Ruth I own. I would love to hear other's thoughts and see other examples.

Forever Young 07-19-2016 12:35 PM

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I actually have an original type 1 example of this one.

prewarsports 07-19-2016 02:40 PM

Negatives are awesome and it like you said, the closest thing to holding a piece of history you can get as it was handled and touched by the photographer and was right there next to the player on the field at one point. There is nothing else in the hobby like holding an original glass plate negative.

The downside is they are very tough to display so it takes a special person to appreciate them for what they are. It would not surprise me if they made a major jump in price, but it also would not surprise me if they never really took off considering the limitations of display.

Forever Young 07-19-2016 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by prewarsports (Post 1563465)
Negatives are awesome and it like you said, the closest thing to holding a piece of history you can get as it was handled and touched by the photographer and was right there next to the player on the field at one point. There is nothing else in the hobby like holding an original glass plate negative.

The downside is they are very tough to display so it takes a special person to appreciate them for what they are. It would not surprise me if they made a major jump in price, but it also would not surprise me if they never really took off considering the limitations of display.

So again, display is the only limitation? Perhaps we need to come up with something?! A display with a high Res print is cleRly the way. The key is not to damage the negative.

btcarfagno 07-19-2016 04:11 PM

That's the tough part. Exposure to normal light in a room would damage the negative over time. Would need to come up with a way to display the photo plus the negative while not damaging the negative.

Here are a few that I still have:

Ruth taking batting practice on opening day at Yankee Stadium in 1923

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/y...psyfh45yeo.jpg

Ruth signing for a fan

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/y...psauwhempo.jpg

1912 Giants on field before first game of World Series

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps88dre3as.jpg

Shot of crowd during Merkle replay game 1908

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/y...psjaxmawrw.jpg

Tom C

steve B 07-19-2016 05:13 PM

Some stuff on the care of glass plate negatives. Film negatives will differ a bit and are a bit more complex

http://www.webjunction.org/documents...Negatives.html

Steve B

horzverti 07-19-2016 05:32 PM

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I love the fact that original negs are truly 1 of 1.

I think there is, or will be, a solid market for vintage original negs. We may see that they will become quite sought after and their prices will reflect their desirability. Although they can be fragile, prone to deterioration and can be tough to adequately display; they will still find buyers. Collectors buy many items just to stash away. Collectors don't display every photo or card they own. Negs can be acquired and then stored away just like everything else. I think that they are now collectibles in their own right and not just a means to produce photos.

I haven't heard any updates recently, but the collection of original Conlon negs (glass plates only) was slated to be sold off sometime this summer by the receivers of the Rogers' holdings. I am sure the sale has been pushed back considering I haven't heard any push leading up to the sale.

Here are a few of my original Conlons 4 x 5s on acetate safety film. He switched to acetate from glass in the 1930s. Note the company name on the envelope he stored one in. :)

Forever Young 07-19-2016 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by horzverti (Post 1563529)
I love the fact that original negs are truly 1 of 1.

I think there is, or will be, a solid market for vintage original negs. We may see that they will become quite sought after and their prices will reflect their desirability. Although they can be fragile, prone to deterioration and can be tough to adequately display; they will still find buyers. Collectors buy many items just to stash away. Collectors don't display every photo or card they own. Negs can be acquired and then stored away just like everything else. I think that they are now collectibles in their own right and not just a means to produce photos.

I haven't heard any updates recently, but the collection of original Conlon negs (glass plates only) was slated to be sold off sometime this summer by the receivers of the Rogers' holdings. I am sure the sale has been pushed back considering I haven't heard any push leading up to the sale.

Here are a few of my original Conlons 4 x 5s on acetate safety film. He switched to acetate from glass in the 1930s. Note the company name on the envelope he stored one in. :)

I can't see what they say.

horzverti 07-19-2016 06:31 PM

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The white one is a The Evening Telegram mailing envelope cut in half. It seems Charlie had so many negs, he ran out of his supply of the tan, cardboard-ish storage envelopes. So he used his employer's envelopes. Cool connection between Conlon and his newspaper employer.
I don't have the negs readily available to re-photograph right now. I'll see if I can add a larger or more tightly cropped picture later.

horzverti 07-19-2016 06:33 PM

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Found one


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