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Forever Young 04-07-2015 12:38 AM

Show your Michael Jordan and ALL OTHER star company basketball cards
 
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I am starting to add cards i have always wanted as a kid to my collection.

I am buying jordan 101 cards 7.5 and higher grades by bgs. Hit me up if you have any to sell. I will start the thread with one of my jordan star cards. I would love to see your collections.

Ben

bcbgcbrcb 04-07-2015 06:35 AM

Ben:

I had the same idea but last year before the price really spiked on the Star Jordan RC's. I have not been in a good cash position for a while now so couldn't make the pick-ups. As usual, I missed the boat, too late now............

Same thing happened with Giancarlo Stanton RC's a couple of years ago...........

The vintage baseball RC's that I was able to buy like Aaron, Mays, Clemente, etc. netted me zero in return. Go figure, right.............

Forever Young 04-08-2015 12:19 AM

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Ben:

I had the same idea but last year before the price really spiked on the Star Jordan RC's. I have not been in a good cash position for a while now so couldn't make the pick-ups. As usual, I missed the boat, too late now............

Same thing happened with Giancarlo Stanton RC's a couple of years ago...........

The vintage baseball RC's that I was able to buy like Aaron, Mays, Clemente, etc. netted me zero in return. Go figure, right.............

Yeah.. they have def gone up but I do not see them ever declining as they are RARE. Here is another I picked up. 1984-85 #195.

bcbgcbrcb 04-08-2015 05:13 AM

Definitely scarce, Ben. My biggest fear with them is the fact that the fakes of all Star Co. basketball cards produced were so good that both PSA and SGC have refused to grade these since Day 1. Even though Beckett has taken on the task in recent years, how many fakes do you think have slipped through the cracks and are in holders? My guess is a decent amount and if one of these ends up being a 9.5 Jordan RC and is discovered, the resulting news hitting the market could cause a big downturn in this issue overall IMHO.

Forever Young 04-08-2015 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb (Post 1399346)
Definitely scarce, Ben. My biggest fear with them is the fact that the fakes of all Star Co. basketball cards produced were so good that both PSA and SGC have refused to grade these since Day 1. Even though Beckett has taken on the task in recent years, how many fakes do you think have slipped through the cracks and are in holders? My guess is a decent amount and if one of these ends up being a 9.5 Jordan RC and is discovered, the resulting news hitting the market could cause a big downturn in this issue overall IMHO.

Phil, I understand what you are saying as I once had some of the same concerns.

Now, however, I believe there is a huge misconception about potential fakes of Star Company cards. Ck out the link. This is from Steve Taft. He is the #1 expert in Star cards. He trained Beckett, GAI, and SCD. He is the Steve Hart (unopened material), Lew Lipset (preWar cards), Paul Muchinsky (pinbacks), Henry Yee (photographs), Grad/Spence/Keurajian (autographs) of Star Co. cards from what I have gathered.

http://jordancards.com/blog/the-real...rt-steve-taft/

mpemulis 04-12-2015 01:31 PM

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Here are a few of mine. Nice to see some others - the centering is always tough on these issues, but the ones you've all posted above are some of the nicest I've seen.

- Jamie

Forever Young 04-13-2015 03:39 PM

288
 
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Nice Jamie,

Here is my #288. This and the #195 are underrated I think as they are also from 1984 with a very low pop and both outside cards in bags.

Ben

Forever Young 04-13-2015 09:14 PM

Underrated
 
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This is, IMO, the most underrated card. It is obviously because it is oversized(5x7). However, its weakness also makes it great(more condition sensitive). It is also on the top of the bag and a very low pop. On top of that, it is probably the best image of all the Jordan star cards and thought to be his FIRST by some. It is 100 percent from 1984. I would buy BGS 9s all day long.
Thoughts??

Forever Young 04-16-2015 06:36 PM

Newest acquisition; 101 8.5 bgs
 
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Attachment 186834Love this one.

David W 04-21-2015 08:25 PM

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Lite Beer.

jtschantz 04-22-2015 03:18 PM

I am happy to finally see some discussion on the Star basketball card sets. I have a complete run of all three years and most or all of the subsets still in their sealed bags. I also have some additional cards graded by SCD (many years ago) and have been debating whether or not to open bags and send some of the key cards to Beckett. Any thoughts on a preference of bagged or Beckett graded from the crowd here? Thanks in advance

bcbgcbrcb 04-23-2015 06:30 PM

I would go with the Beckett graded option. I think there are too many collectors who will pass on these cards entirely if not graded.

Forever Young 04-23-2015 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jtschantz (Post 1404096)
I am happy to finally see some discussion on the Star basketball card sets. I have a complete run of all three years and most or all of the subsets still in their sealed bags. I also have some additional cards graded by SCD (many years ago) and have been debating whether or not to open bags and send some of the key cards to Beckett. Any thoughts on a preference of bagged or Beckett graded from the crowd here? Thanks in advance

If you are certain the bags are legit, I would keep them bagged. That is, unless the key cards(on the top) look very high grade. I would only crack a jordan 101 out, for example, if I thought it would bring a 8 or higher(maybe even an 8.5 or higher).

jtschantz 04-25-2015 12:07 PM

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1985-86 All Rookie

Forever Young 04-25-2015 01:01 PM

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1985-86 All Rookie

Damn.. That looks like a high grade 8! Love the black borders on those holders as they really make the bold star colors pop!

Forever Young 05-06-2015 12:50 AM

Grail
 
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My newest acquisition. Now what?

bcbgcbrcb 05-06-2015 05:29 AM

Nice Jordan, Ben.

What are your thoughts on collecting the other major rookies from the Star sets, i.e.- Barkley, Olajuwon, Ewing, Drexler, Wilkins, Thomas and Worthy (probably left someone else out)?

jtschantz 05-09-2015 08:55 AM

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For my 2 cents worth I think the other Stars from these sets will eventually rise in price quickly. We have seen over the years a pattern where the "super duper star" rookie card gets all of the attention for a period of time, then the focus moves to the other HOFers in a set, finally followed by the commons (for the set builders). The Star cards are unique in the sense that they have not fully been accepted because of the fear of reprints. When collectors feel confident they are purchasing original cards (Beckett is helping this greatly), I think they will explode in value.

Jewish-collector 05-11-2015 07:49 PM

Ben,
Mazel Tov on getting that card !!!
See you in Chicago at the National !!!

Forever Young 05-11-2015 11:17 PM

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For my 2 cents worth I think the other Stars from these sets will eventually rise in price quickly. We have seen over the years a pattern where the "super duper star" rookie card gets all of the attention for a period of time, then the focus moves to the other HOFers in a set, finally followed by the commons (for the set builders). The Star cards are unique in the sense that they have not fully been accepted because of the fear of reprints. When collectors feel confident they are purchasing original cards (Beckett is helping this greatly), I think they will explode in value.

Great cards! Yes phil, I do collect the others too. I have 9 or 9.5s in most of them. Here is a beautiful Wilkins I own. As beautiful as it is, my Jordan below is just as good in person. One SP card I am in love with is the 83 Bird. I also like(collect) certain bags. I have a Jordan 101 bag and a Barkley bag.

Jewish collector.. Looking forward to seeing you buddy.

Forever Young 05-11-2015 11:17 PM

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Here is a Jordan 101 bag and barkley xrc bag. I think the mj would grade an 8.

bcbgcbrcb 05-11-2015 11:24 PM

Looks like by waiting and feeling out the market on the other Star RC's, I have missed the boat again, just like I did on the Jordan last year. Many of the higher-grade Ewing's, Barkley's, Olajuwon's, Drexler's, etc. have very recently sold on e-bay after being out there for a long time at enticing prices.

Oh well, I'll get in on something at the ground floor one of these days...........

Forever Young 05-11-2015 11:33 PM

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Looks like by waiting and feeling out the market on the other Star RC's, I have missed the boat again, just like I did on the Jordan last year. Many of the higher-grade Ewing's, Barkley's, Olajuwon's, Drexler's, etc. have very recently sold on e-bay after being out there for a long time at enticing prices.

Oh well, I'll get in on something at the ground floor one of these days...........

Perhaps I should have kept my mouth shut until I was completely satisfied. But then again, ben's belly is never full and it is fun to share passions. Oh well.,

bcbgcbrcb 05-12-2015 05:27 AM

Ben:

Centering on that Barkley should be at least a 9. Is the back way off?

Forever Young 05-12-2015 06:27 PM

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Ben:

Centering on that Barkley should be at least a 9. Is the back way off?

No, that's why I bought it. I felt it was way better than the grade. It is a sweet card. Beckett can be all over teh place in subs; particularly in star card centering. Which.. no idea how you can be on centering of all things. It is the only thing measurable. ha! Maybe graded on a curve?? IDK

jtschantz 05-16-2015 10:11 PM

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Just trying to keep the thread alive

Forever Young 05-17-2015 01:06 AM

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Just trying to keep the thread alive

Love it!

http://youtu.be/1aM8Am2ISh8


Here are a couple more I own.

jtschantz 05-19-2015 09:43 PM

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Just gonna keep throwing up scans every few days

jtschantz 05-21-2015 11:11 PM

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Not the most difficult but one of my favorites

bcbgcbrcb 05-27-2015 09:19 PM

Just curious, how much do the #117's run in Gem-Mint condition?

Forever Young 05-28-2015 01:58 PM

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Just curious, how much do the #117's run in Gem-Mint condition?

currently 700-1000 I would say. They took a huge spike despite there being quite a few compared to other Jordans in gem mint. It is a very pretty card which is probably why. Here is another tough SP of magic that is CENTERED(VERY TOUGH on this card). I thought it was fitting to show the sp bird with it too which is also difficult and one of my favorite star cards of all time. The colors!!! I keep saying that I know but star cards are beautiful!

bcbgcbrcb 05-28-2015 03:02 PM

I guess by the third year of issue, quality control at Star must have gotten a lot better to account for all of the Gem-Mint copies as compared to the second year Jordan card ('84-'85) which is virtually impossible to find Gem-Mint.

Forever Young 05-28-2015 04:12 PM

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I guess by the third year of issue, quality control at Star must have gotten a lot better to account for all of the Gem-Mint copies as compared to the second year Jordan card ('84-'85) which is virtually impossible to find Gem-Mint.

That is correct.. It was on a different part of the sheet and the cutting was much more controlled.
Attached are a couple more classic rookies. GOD I love the colors!!

Forever Young 06-06-2015 11:37 PM

101
 
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Added another... Oooops! I JUST.CAN'T.STOP...

Forever Young 06-24-2015 03:16 PM

Don't die thread
 
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Miller time

Forever Young 06-24-2015 11:27 PM

Crunchy Munchy
 
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Love this one

Forever Young 06-28-2015 11:21 PM

Monster Barkley pickup
 
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9.5 Barkley star Bgs xrc

Forever Young 07-01-2015 07:58 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aM8Am2ISh8

greenmonster66 07-03-2015 08:50 AM

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Here are my 2-MJ Star cards!

Forever Young 07-03-2015 07:36 PM

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Here are my 2-MJ Star cards!

Fantastic!! Here is another of mine.:) it is tough in high grade. "The poor man's101.

4815162342 07-07-2015 05:09 PM

Gorgeous cards, Ben - thanks for sharing.

Forever Young 07-07-2015 11:05 PM

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Gorgeous cards, Ben - thanks for sharing.

Thank you! Here are a couple more nba champion xrc rookies which are also sps.

Forever Young 07-10-2015 08:00 AM

Jordan Psa 101 -1/1
 
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Attached is the ONLY PSA graded Jordan 101 card. It is a cool/historical piece as it relates to the star card set IMO.

4815162342 07-12-2015 05:10 PM

Show your Michael Jordan and ALL OTHER star company basketball cards
 
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Originally Posted by Forever Young (Post 1429546)
Attached is the ONLY PSA graded Jordan 101 card. It is a cool/historical piece as it relates to the star card set IMO.


That's very cool! Is it authentic? When I first saw this post, I assumed that the cert wouldn't check out, but here it is: http://www.psacard.com/Cert/02002207

Thanks for posting. How many other Star cards do you think are out there in PSA slabs?

Forever Young 07-13-2015 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 1430312)
That's very cool! Is it authentic? When I first saw this post, I assumed that the cert wouldn't check out, but here it is: http://www.psacard.com/Cert/02002207

Thanks for posting. How many other Star cards do you think are out there in PSA slabs?

Yes.. It is authentic(or I would never have purchased it) and the only one graded by Psa. I have no idea how many total star cards are graded.

Jdoggs 07-16-2015 12:25 AM

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Yes.. It is authentic(or I would never have purchased it) and the only one graded by Psa. I have no idea how many total star cards are graded.

Nice card.
Why is there only one PSA graded star jordan rookie?

Forever Young 07-16-2015 10:21 AM

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Nice card.
Why is there only one PSA graded star jordan rookie?

Below sums it up that was posted on a blowoutcard thread.
"In short, they got spook when they graded a few bad apples a decade ago and stop grading Star. Since then much of the facts and myths have been confirmed or debunked. Here is a good article featuring Taft.

The Real Star Co Cards Story - Interview with renowned Star cards expert Steve Taft - Michael Jordan Cards"
http://jordancards.com/blog/the-real...rt-steve-taft/

Forever Young 08-17-2015 04:47 PM

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Picked up this very rare Dallas Mavs 1983-84 bag. The cards appear to be mint which is a plus!
There were only 700 or so sets produced as a whole.

Forever Young 09-02-2015 07:57 PM

Newest MJ addition
 
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Not the most valuable but certainly one of the prettiest.

otismalibu 09-02-2015 08:34 PM

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A few signed.


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