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Old 07-08-2018, 03:43 PM
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Default Which years are Jeter's rookie card?

So I am having a friendly discussion with a well-known seller. His position is that the market generally considers all Jeter cards from 1992 to 1996 to be rookies. My position is that the market generally considers only 1993 major league issues to be rookies. This isn't about our respective opinions o what is or isn't a rookie card, it's about how the market views things. So who's right?
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:00 PM
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So I am having a friendly discussion with a well-known seller. His position is that the market generally considers all Jeter cards from 1992 to 1996 to be rookies. My position is that the market generally considers only 1993 major league issues to be rookies. This isn't about our respective opinions o what is or isn't a rookie card, it's about how the market views things. So who's right?
I'm with you, 93 is his rookie.
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:08 PM
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Well I consider only 1993. But his cards say prospect or rookie through 1996. 1996 select/1996 pinnacle etc. 1995 he played 15 games idk how many days he was on the active roster. But technically he was a prospect until 1996. If he was playing today his 1996 card would be the only cards with the rookie shield. ( a lot of guys would also fall in to this ) . This is why the rookie shield was invented.
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:53 PM
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I have only ever heard 1993 is the rookie card.

I have had a similar issue trying to figure out Votto. He has cards in 2002 - 2008. 2008 has the RC logo, but the rules were established in 2006, so 2004 cards also have the RC logo. Yet the 2002 cards were also released in major brands (Topps 206 and Bowman), but didn't include the logo.
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Old 07-08-2018, 05:03 PM
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The 2002 Bowman is part of a draft picks set not a major league set, or is that not right? Like the 2009 Trout etc.
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Personally, I think the whole rookie shield thing is patently absurd. Setting that aside, I've never heard anyone refer to a year other than 1993 as Jeter's rookie cards.

I think the market is translated as many different ways as the bible. You can't just say "these 1996 cards sell for more than the 1993 cards so therefore the market considers them rookie cards as well." That's false logic. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any '93 Jeter cards that are true rarities, whereas there are many low-print run parallels in '96 that will sell for a small fortune no matter what the grade. That doesn't make them rookies.

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Old 07-08-2018, 07:10 PM
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I agree for 1993 only because I grew up 10 miles away from the stadium and was attending big shows at that time. I have always been a Yankees fan so I clearly remember that the 93 sp was offered as his rookie later in 94 and 95 when I first heard of him. Later when he gain more popularity
Ive said this before but I remember that he 1993 stadium club was not found as easy. The stadium club Murphy box set was printed in 1992 and was in the 1992 stadium club design. So I would call that his first card.

But technically you cant have a rookie card until You played in the majors(1996). Anything before is a prospect card.
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So 1992 little sun - Not a rookie because it's only a HS prospects set.
1993 - ROOKIE!! even though he played no games and wouldn't for a couple years.
1994 signature rookies - Not a rookie since it's just a prospects set.
1995 Not a rookie because duh, the rookie is the 1993......


That's a bit more involved than some modern players, but not by much. McGwire had the 85 which was then wasn't the rookie, or the 87s.

The whole thing is pretty much pointless for modern cards anyway, since they are saved in quantity instead of being routinely thrown out after 3-4 years.
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To me, at least pre the official designation, the first appearance in a major league base set from one of the major licensed manufacturers is the rookie card. Whether or not he was playing at the time. And there can NEVER be rookie cards from more than one year.

Beckett I think basically had it right although the XRC was really stupid IMO.
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Old 07-09-2018, 10:48 AM
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That works in most cases, but I've always seen it as being very artificial. I tend to read it as
"Whatever card was issued closest to the players first year and in enough quantity that dealers can easily capitalize on it. "

So the XRCs are that because not every dealer bothered to buy the update sets.
It's even sillier that it holds for the year they sold the update cards in packs as well as the sets. Not like recently, whichever year the did it in the 80's I've just forgotten the year.
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