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Old 08-30-2016, 08:59 AM
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Default PSA Vs. SGC

Which company do you respect more for grading? I've noticed on eBay recently that PSA is selling for much higher on equivalent grades.
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:07 AM
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Default PSA Vs. SGC

In a nutshell, PSA is the largest, generally most respected, and "market leader" of all graders. There are a zillion different opinions on whether or not they really are the best, but PSA graded cards will pretty reliably sell for more $ on the whole every time in comparison to a card in the same grade graded by SGC or Beckett (at least BVG). My advice is that if you are collecting with investment in mind, stick with PSA. If (like me) you collect purely for enjoyment of the hobby and love of the game, I don't think you have to. I have a few graded cards from all of the companies, and in my experience the grading is pretty much on the money with all of them - though they all make mistakes. You will run across some collectors that put their cards only in SGC slabs because they like the black inserts, and others who claim that BVG's grading is horrible and cite examples where a BVG 7 crosses only to a PSA 5. I have not found that to be the case personally, but for some folks that collect only graded cards, the politics of the slabs almost becomes a hobby of it's own. To me, the question of which slab do you "respect" more based on accuracy is up in the air. PSA clearly has the edge as the organized hobby's favorite, I think. But in terms of the grades they actually give out, I've seen all 3 of the big companies make pretty large mistakes before. At the end of the day, a professionally graded card is still only based on someone's (or a few someone's) opinion and is still subjective. I learned how to grade cards in the late 1980's, a decade before the first professionally graded slabs were ever seen. If you learn to do that properly and realize the subjective nuances that can exist between people, you will have a lot more tolerance for variances in professionally graded cards, I think. But again that advice is better spent on someone that collects for fun and not with the hopes of one day cashing in only PSA 8 or above cards to pay for retirement. Just some random thoughts...


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Old 08-30-2016, 09:10 AM
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Which company do you respect more for grading? I've noticed on eBay recently that PSA is selling for much higher on equivalent grades.
PSA has always outperformed SGC prices for postwar cards, especially commons due to the number of set registry collectors.

SGC has always been consistent with grading, in my opinion. PSA has apparently tightened the consistency screw in recent years, and that consistent grading is evident in the marketplace. Both companies have their share of mistakes as well.

When you take everything into consideration (grading, customer service, holders, website, etc) I give the nod to PSA.
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I give the overall nod to PSA, slightly, and in terms of investment value it's PSA in a landslide, regardless of whether it should be or not. With all that said, I think SGC does a good job and I like their holders. They're pretty good too.
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In a nutshell, PSA is the largest, generally most respected, and "market leader" of all graders. There are a zillion different opinions on whether or not they really are the best, but PSA graded cards will pretty reliably sell for more $ on the whole every time in comparison to a card in the same grade graded by SGC or Beckett (at least BVG). My advice is that if you are collecting with investment in mind, stick with PSA. If (like me) you collect purely for enjoyment of the hobby and love of the game, I don't think you have to. I have a few graded cards from all of the companies, and in my experience the grading is pretty much on the money with all of them - though they all make mistakes. You will run across some collectors that put their cards only in SGC slabs because they like the black inserts, and others who claim that BVG's grading is horrible and cite examples where a BVG 7 crosses only to a PSA 5. I have not found that to be the case personally, but for some folks that collect only graded cards, the politics of the slabs almost becomes a hobby of it's own. To me, the question of which slab do you "respect" more based on accuracy is up in the air. PSA clearly has the edge as the organized hobby's favorite, I think. But in terms of the grades they actually give out, I've seen all 3 of the big companies make pretty large mistakes before. At the end of the day, a professionally graded card is still only based on someone's (or a few someone's) opinion and is still subjective. I learned how to grade cards in the late 1980's, a decade before the first professionally graded slabs were ever seen. If you learn to do that properly and realize the subjective nuances that can exist between people, you will have a lot more tolerance for variances in professionally graded cards, I think. But again that advice is better spent on someone that collects for fun and not with the hopes of one day cashing in only PSA 8 or above cards to pay for retirement. Just some random thoughts...


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Old 08-30-2016, 10:57 AM
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Thanks. I was looking at a 52 Berk Ross on ebay and there is a decently priced Sgc 84/7 but I see the the PSA 7 has gone for $200+ more than the sgc recently. Seemed a big gap to me.


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If you're grading the cards for your own personal collection, go with whichever one you find more aesthetically pleasing. Some cards look better in PSA slabs, some look better in SGC slabs.

If you're grading to re-sell, the edge goes to PSA. Their slabs realize higher prices.

If you're looking to buy cards already graded, go with SGC. They're grading is more consistent and their cards sell for less than they're PSA counterparts.

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If you're grading the cards for your own personal collection, go with whichever one you find more aesthetically pleasing. Some cards look better in PSA slabs, some look better in SGC slabs.

If you're grading to re-sell, the edge goes to PSA. They're slabs realize higher prices.

If you're looking to buy cards already graded, go with SGC. They're grading is more consistent and their cards sell for less than they're PSA counterparts.
^Exactly what David wrote.^ The only thing I can add is if you are buying raw to get graded to resell. Wait till you are selling to see what companies cards sell for the most then. A quick flip would 100% be PSA now.
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Old 08-30-2016, 11:50 AM
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For cards I'm not planning to sell: SGC
If planning for resell PSA

I personally likes SGC holder, people say newer PSA grades tougher. i think it is to some degree, I still see weak card in newer serial number as well. you can also find strong card in SGC holder in same grade at a discount

customer service: SGC hands down and more consistent in grading.
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Very well said, er, written.
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