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Old 04-27-2018, 05:27 PM
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I wouldn't trust most prices from spring and summer 2016, a period of manipulation IMO.
Can you expound on this a bit? Why do you think this happened?
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:29 PM
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That makes sense. I'm really concerned about fraud, so paying the buyer's fee on a site like Heritage is painful, but gives me piece of mind. Is it safe to assume purchases on those site are the real deal? Do you ever double check after a large purchase to confirm the legitimacy? Are those holders welded together once rated?
I would be confident that cards on a major AH site are authentic and not reprints or fakes. However, in my opinion, trimmed and otherwise altered cards are pretty common in the hobby especially in the higher grades, so IF you care about that educate yourself and do the best you can. As long as the card is slabbed though it shouldn't affect the value. The holders are sealed, yes, although they aren't very difficult to break apart, they're just plastic.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:31 PM
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Can you expound on this a bit? Why do you think this happened?
I don't mean to be a smart ass but it happened because some relatively well to do people saw the opportunity. It's been discussed at length on this forum if you do some looking around, maybe use "manipulation" as a search term.
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Basically there were a couple of people (5 according to the owner of PWCC in an article) who were buying up a group of post-war rookie cards to influence the market. Mainly 1952 Mantle, 1954 Aaron, 1955 Clemente, 1955 Koufax, 1963 Pete Rose. Prices increased 300%-500% for the cards in the same grades in a span of a few months.

One more recommendation when using PSA's auction prices tool, make sure the prices you're seeing are for the correct card and not a complete set headlined by that card. If the card is part of a group, they will remove that price point from their database if you click the "report this item" button.
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Basically there were a couple of people (5 according to the owner of PWCC in an article) who were buying up a group of post-war rookie cards to influence the market. Mainly 1952 Mantle, 1954 Aaron, 1955 Clemente, 1955 Koufax, 1963 Pete Rose. Prices increased 300%-500% for the cards in the same grades in a span of a few months.

One more recommendation when using PSA's auction prices tool, make sure the prices you're seeing are for the correct card and not a complete set headlined by that card. If the card is part of a group, they will remove that price point from their database if you click the "report this item" button.
Ah, that makes sense. Thx for the background. I will watch for the pricing too on PSA's auction tool, too.
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