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Old 03-22-2013, 04:37 PM
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For me it comes down to common sense on what a card is. If it is made of card stock, but has to be cut by the owner (strip cards) then it is a card the majority of the time. If it is made of regular paper but is cut from the factory (older European sticker cards) then it is a card the majority of them time. If it is made of regular paper and has to be cut by the owner to look like a card (Rekord "cards") then it is a photo cut out. Just because something is a photo and was meant to be collected does not make it a card. If it says to cut the photo out and save it then it is a collectible photo, not a card. To be a card in my book I think it either needs to be made of card stock or factory cut (even if the factory cut is just a perforated cut) but magazine or newspaper cut outs are not cards, even if they were meant to be cut out.
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Thank you very much for the link, it's very interesting .
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1969 Shindana Toys Afro-American History Mystery, but i'd never heard of or seen that before.
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That is a cool item on Muhammad, thanks for sharing. That would look awesome slabbed.
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I think it looks just dandy in its natural state
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I can appreciate that!
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That is a cool item on Muhammad, thanks for sharing. That would look awesome slabbed.
On second thought, you may be right about that...

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On second thought, you may be right about that...

That looks great slabbed. I enjoyed reading all the opinions on the Rookie cards, it's been very informative. I have a nice 64 Simons that I intend to have slabbed.
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1: Following up on the Clay publicity cards, there was a segment on Antiques Roadshow on Monday about one of these. The guy brought in a Clay publicity card with a different pose that he'd gotten from Clay when he was a boy in Miami, before the Liston fight. His was signed. It also had the facsimile stamped signature, which the alleged expert mis-identified as a fountain pen signature. Had me yelling BS at my TV set...I hate it when they make obvious mistakes on that show.

Here is a link to the video:

https://youtu.be/yAMCzLbRjsU

2: On the magazine cut out question, here is a different set from Fight Beat Magazine:



They are touted on the magazine cover as cards, are labeled as cards, and have dotted lines to cut out.

3: Shindana Games in a slab does look nice:



And for something even crazier, I found a cabinet card sized version:




I'm not sure if these were proofs, store displays, prototypes or what, but a near set turned up, found in an estate sale in Michigan.
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Thanks for the link to the video Adam. How can the "expert" not know that is a printed signature? Honestly. What do you think of his valuation of the piece?
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