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Old 11-21-2012, 08:47 AM
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Default These may or may not be from McIntyre's scrapbook . . .

I do not own any of the following images, so if I offend anyone that does, my apologies. I just wanted to spread alittle pre-holiday cheer.



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Default two more . . .

that I couldn't include in last post.

I think I have four or five more, but I have been unable to find them as of yet. But for now, these should do.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:05 AM
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Now we're talking! That 'Matty and Friend' one is the back of the 'Killian/Greminger' that was first posted. It's also my pseudo-autograph of 'Matty'.

When this photo album was originally broken up and sold on ebay, I was very excited about it. I ended up getting outbid on almost everything, but kept the only two baseball player photos that I won.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:24 PM
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What did they sell for?
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:44 AM
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We know this album belonged to McIntyre, but I'm skeptical that he was the person who wrote the descriptions under the photos. Why wouldn't he write "Me and a friend" or why wouldn't he name the friend if he was the one writing under the photos? Another thing I found mysterious about this album was that a few of the photos I bought had the exact same photo underneath, but the underneath photos were in poor condition. A theory I have is that many of the photos were printed later from the negatives and glued over the older photos...the person who did this may have written the descriptions when they knew who was in the photo. When they didn't know who was in the photo they didn't write any description.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:09 AM
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Some of the photos I had from this collection

George Wiltse and Joe McGinnity
C1905 George Wiltse and Joe McGinnity -Matty McIntyre Photo Collection

This is an example of one of the photos that I found underneath another photo...in this case the photo was not the same..a baseball photo was over this one. This photo had a glossy finish.

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Matty's kid?
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C1905-7 Unknown Subject -Detroit Bennett Park- Matty McIntyre Photo Collection

c1904 Tampa Bay Minor League Club in Cuba -Matty McIntyre Photo Collection

C1906 Wild Bill Donovan -Matty McIntyre Photo Collection

Davy Jones C1906 -Matty McIntyre Photo Collection

Ed Killian C1906 -Matty McIntyre Photo Collection

Germany Schaefer c1906 - Matty McIntyre Photo Collection

Jimmy Archer 1907 -Matty McIntryre Photo Collection

Jimmy Archer 1907 -Matty McIntyre Photo Collection
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I'll play devil's advocate, although your theory sounds logical.

McIntyre could have re-used a photo album, possibly one that had a lot of blank pages left, pasting over pics. I doubt anyone would have saved the negatives back then, much less gotten them redeveloped, but it's possible.

As far as the inscriptions, you could be right. It would help if we had a McIntyre signature to compare to. Inscribing 'Matty' as opposed to 'me', makes perfect sense if he's using the album to document trips that involved lots of people. I think I would do the same. Also, whoever did the inscriptions seemed to know all the same people that Matty would have known, frequently using nicknames. Using 'friend' in the 'Matty and friend' inscription makes less sense to me, unless the woman was someone who asked to pose with him.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:46 PM
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We may never know, but lots of people saved their negatives. I just bought over 1000 negatives from an estate that date to around 1900 - 1920...I also just sold on ebay a month or so back about 100 glass plate negatives from the 1890s-1910s. That's not unusual at all. However you're not the only person who believes those inscriptions are in McIntyre's hand...as a non-autograph person I just don't know, and after so many years on this forum all autographs not obtained in person are questionable to me.
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We may never know, but lots of people saved their negatives. I just bought over 1000 negatives from an estate that date to around 1900 - 1920...I also just sold on ebay a month or so back about 100 glass plate negatives from the 1890s-1910s. That's not unusual at all. However you're not the only person who believes those inscriptions are in McIntyre's hand...as a non-autograph person I just don't know, and after so many years on this forum all autographs not obtained in person are questionable to me.
I know some non-glass were saved - I'm just saying it wasn't the norm, even less-so to re-create photo albums using such negatives, but here's a possible scenario: If it was someone other than McIntyre, I'm thinking it was at least done around that period, and by someone who knew him well, and knew the other players well; otherwise, you wouldn't see all the nicknames in the descriptions. Perhaps it was another person on the same journey Matty took, who asked Matty if he could use the negatives to make his own personal album? No telling. Or maybe it was someone who did it around 1920 when Matty died, finding the negatives in his belongings, and wanting to create something to remember him by.

I do lean toward it's being McIntyre's handwriting, but let's say it was the same situation, only it was an album belonging to a far more famous player - there is no way I would pay prices based on it being that player's authentic handwriting.

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