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Old 03-19-2017, 10:04 AM
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I agree, I like a little bit of staining that adds character. Little bit of corner rounding, just enough to show a card has been treasured and loved for the past century.

I think these cards fit the bill...
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Love that Cobb Orlando.

It just has the best eye appeal, great piece.
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Old 03-19-2017, 10:21 AM
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Stains are good.

I will say this though, water doesn't take out caramel stains though. I'm not ignorant enough to think CJs don't get soaked, but those stains are saturated into the thin card stock. A 1914 w/o stains has probably been ALTERED, not soaked.
I had that same thought, but didn't mention it. I don't see how soaking could remove stains that are deeply embedded in a card (for 100 years at that!). In fact, I don't see how anything can. But I guess guys are always a step ahead when it comes to money making scams.

-Thanks Justin.

-erick, that Clarke is SHARP. My eyes tell me it's a 6, but I don't know how much psa would knock off for staining. I am not even 100% certain they DO knock off for staining on '14s as someone else stated. They don't give (st) qualifiers on them (unless I have just missed it). If they don't do that, I don't think they reduce the grade either. Could be wrong.

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I had that same thought, but didn't mention it. I don't see how soaking could remove stains that are deeply embedded in a card (for 100 years at that!). In fact, I don't see how anything can. But I guess guys are always a step ahead when it comes to money making scams.

-Thanks Justin.

-erick, that Clarke is SHARP. My eyes tell me it's a 6, but I don't know how much psa would knock off for staining. I am not even 100% certain they DO knock off for staining on '14s as someone else stated. They don't give (st) qualifiers on them (unless I have just missed it). If they don't do that, I don't think they reduce the grade either. Could be wrong.
Thanks Orlando, it's now in an SGC60 (5) case.

The picture I have of it before grading looks nicer!
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I had that same thought, but didn't mention it. I don't see how soaking could remove stains that are deeply embedded in a card (for 100 years at that!). In fact, I don't see how anything can. But I guess guys are always a step ahead when it comes to money making scams.

-Thanks Justin.

-erick, that Clarke is SHARP. My eyes tell me it's a 6, but I don't know how much psa would knock off for staining. I am not even 100% certain they DO knock off for staining on '14s as someone else stated. They don't give (st) qualifiers on them (unless I have just missed it). If they don't do that, I don't think they reduce the grade either. Could be wrong.

second that on the Clarke! Such a great card. Love the image of him leaning on the bat. Orlando they are now grading very hard on staining. They will knock off 2 or more grades for stains. 4+ years ago they were more lenient and you'd see heavily stained cards or even cards with heavy print marks get grades as if the stains or marks weren't there. And in the really early days PSA would give (ST) grades but last time I requested one they declined to give it. PSA's inconsistency has made it really tough to gauge values in the marketplace.
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I agree. My only Cracker Jack, with lots of gooey caramel! Looks like a 5/6 minus stains
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Thanks for sharing your great cards guys. I also like the unique poses used in the set plus you get some horizontals too. How thin are these compared to other cards?
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I work in a Machine shop. I brought a raw one in once and measured it. 6 thousandths of an inch. A piece of notebook paper is roughly 3.
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If you hold a 1914 up to the light you can read the other side they are so thin. 1915 are thicker but by no means are they sturdy stock. The ink is also very fragile on both years.
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