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Old 05-16-2018, 03:27 PM
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I get that . . .to a degree. As bad as my Mets have been over my 50+ years, I can't recall them not pulling a million fans a year. (Maybe in the 70s) . I love the game itself and usually no matter how lousy your team is there are things to be interested. Prospects. Guys having good runs. And there is always beer and food.

The Cardinals seem to draw fans through thick and thin. The Knicks sell out every game and they are dreadful forever. Ditto the Jets in football.
The Cardinals are a decent comparison - Midwest city - but you can't compare NY to Cincy. Completely different markets. I'm from NEO, and Browns fans have been punishing the franchise for its poor decisions by not attending games. That could be what Cincinnati is doing.
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Joey Votto is a crazy diamond, but a diamond to be sure.
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From what I read his comments about Canada stem from him being universally ignored by organized Canadian baseball his entire amateur career.
Votto, who played for Canada at the 2009 and 2013 World Baseball Classics and won the Lou Marsh Award as Canada’s athlete of the year in 2010 and 2017, distanced himself from his home country

Votto said he is “terribly ashamed” of his comments and called them “ridiculously selfish and short-sighted.”

I get the fact he is frustrated never having won a WS and his team currently in the toilet, but I guess he forgot his roots and where he learned and got good, pro good, before he was drafted.

He apologized, as he should have, so its water under the bridge now, for me anyways, but, imo, he won't live this one down.

“People aren’t going to love that I say this (but) I don’t care almost at all about Canadian baseball,” Votto said. “When I say that … I wasn’t raised inside of Canadian baseball really. I played on a local team but as an 18-year-old I was drafted."
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From what I read his comments about Canada stem from him being universally ignored by organized Canadian baseball his entire amateur career.
Agreed

He had a hot flash and boom .... everything is on the record nowadays.

He's human, had some bad memories come back in a flash, and his apology was more than adequate imo
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This story is still big news up here. I am obviously not in the circle, but when you have the even hockey execs speaking about it, you know it has upset a lot of people.
Like all stories, it will eventually disappear and be forgotten about somewhat, but I think Votto is going to be hearing about it for a while yet.
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Good for him.
Fuck everyone else’s “feelings”.

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Votto, who played for Canada at the 2009 and 2013 World Baseball Classics and won the Lou Marsh Award as Canada’s athlete of the year in 2010 and 2017, distanced himself from his home country

Votto said he is “terribly ashamed” of his comments and called them “ridiculously selfish and short-sighted.”

I get the fact he is frustrated never having won a WS and his team currently in the toilet, but I guess he forgot his roots and where he learned and got good, pro good, before he was drafted.

He apologized, as he should have, so its water under the bridge now, for me anyways, but, imo, he won't live this one down.

“People aren’t going to love that I say this (but) I don’t care almost at all about Canadian baseball,” Votto said. “When I say that … I wasn’t raised inside of Canadian baseball really. I played on a local team but as an 18-year-old I was drafted."

He was left off the Olympic team, not picked for Team Canada and passed on by the Blue Jays while he was an amateur. 2009, 2010, 20013 and 2017 appearances / awards were given during his professional career when it wasn't too hard to believe in Joey Votto. Like I said, maybe he's resentful of being dismissed when his name didn't mean anything. I'm only pointing this out because some people can't believe a guy could have negative feelings about where he's from.

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Do the Reds play in Toronto this year?

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Answer: No. Bummer.
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