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Old 03-26-2016, 03:29 PM
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I didn't notice a thread on Jim Thorpe alone, and rather than get off track on the 100 Best Books thread I thought I'd start one - and offer this to get it going - a program from Thorpe's football tenure with the Portsmouth Shoe-Steel team. I haven't seen another example, and would love to see a Portsmouth home program with a team photo. I also found an article about the game online





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Old 03-26-2016, 03:42 PM
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I'll post one more for now - fast forward 25 years from that football game and Jim Thorpe is signing autographs at The New England Sportsman's and Boat Show - and on the reverse of the page is Ted Williams, which makes the 1959 Fleer card the perfect companion.



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Old 03-26-2016, 11:17 PM
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Love that card. Hell, I love the whole set.
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Mike, great idea for a thread! Love the Shoe-Steel program - what a great piece of history.

I looked up this game in Home & Away - it was a big deal for Portsmouth to play in the “big city”. Becker documented that Creasy was looking for a tougher game (apparently they had played a soft schedule to date). The Guards offered 37% of the gate and the Steels took it and started “loading up” (common practice of signing ringers for big games). One of the players signed was Russell Hathway who had played for the Maroons and Bisons in the NFL. The Norfolk and Western ran an excursion train to Cincinnati. There is no exact attendance figure, but one newspaper estimated at 5-7 thousand which may have been a Redland stadium record. (As your article shows, the Cincinatti newspapers definitely played up Thorpe's appearance - Becker mentioned "fathers last chance to take their sons see the great Jim Thorpe.") Portsmouth lost the game 19-12, but this was one of the games Thorpe was healthy for as we know he threw a touchdown pass. No other game stats were provided in the book.

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Old 03-31-2016, 01:43 PM
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Wow. Surprised this thread isn't getting more love from the pre-war thorpe collectors out there. I know who you are!

I've shown most of my Thorpe football stuff on the Ode to Pre-War Football thread but here are a couple of non-football items you might enjoy.













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is it rude to ask how much they cost?
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Here is my favorite piece and most likely earliest know Jim Thorpe item. I consider it the cornerstone of my collection. When he enrolled in Carlisle he received government issued items..this is his writing tablet. Iíve seen his wool blanket many years ago and missed it by less that 30 seconds. The owner had taken it down and said a biographer of Thorpeís had bought it over the phone and was on his way from North Carolina to get it. I got it from a guy whoís grandfather ran a trading post turned into pawn shop and he was the heir to all the stuff left in warehouses. He had Jesse James, Cole Younger and Wyatt Earp estate items that those families had pawned. I have a copy of the pawn ticket(somewhere) and Roger Neufeldt (whom a lot of you probably know) from here in Oklahoma verified itís authenticity as he has one and knows Thorpe family members. The 2nd photo is of Thorpeís enrollment information off of Carlisleís archive. Notice 878 that was assigned to him in 1904 then crossed through and then after he left and came back he was given a new number.



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This item is a program for a dual track meet and baseball game on same day with Syracuse. Coach Warner wanted to be able to utilize his 2-sport athletes so came up with the idea. There is a lot mentioned about the dual meet with Syracuse in 1908 but so far I have not found any mention of him competing in 1907 against Syracuse. Iím thinking this might be his very first track meet he competed in. He is listed in 4 events but did not place in any of them which further makes me think this represents his very first competition. The student ticket would have been used to get into both events. If anybody ever sees an article about this 1907 track meet Iíd sure love to see it!






















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Old 11-10-2018, 06:51 PM
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This is my favorite Thorpe autograph. It's one of only a couple signed cards that I kept when I sold my collection. I've never seen or heard of another one. It's in a PSA holder now.

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This is my favorite Thorpe autograph. It's one of only a couple signed cards that I kept when I sold my collection. I've never seen or heard of another one. It's in a PSA holder now.





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Old 11-12-2018, 06:38 PM
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These are Reach and Spalding pictures from their rule and stat catalogues. Not worth much except to me as they all include Thorpe. First set is from 1914, 2nd set is 1915, 3rd pic is from 1916, 1918 for 4th pic, 1919 for 5th pic and then 1920 for the 6th pic. I have football ones also that Iíll post later.

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Old 11-13-2018, 05:26 PM
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Youíve all seen this postcard yet got to show mine! I was able to finally pick this one up from a collector here in Oklahoma. Pretty decent example of this particular postcard.




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Old 11-13-2018, 06:49 PM
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Great stuff!
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:59 PM
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Here are some more reach and spalding and newspaper items I picked up. The Toledo one is the only one Iíve come across. The newspaper photo of Thorpe long jumping is from a July 24, 1912 newspaper.






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This almanac is to commemorate/document the 1912 Olympics and is full of pictures of our olympians. It is in beat up condition but for me at least has been very hard to find with Thorpe on the cover. If anybody ever comes across one in much better condition and is not interested in it themselves Iíd appreciate a pm about it.




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This almanac is to commemorate/document the 1912 Olympics and is full of pictures of our olympians. It is in beat up condition but for me at least has been very hard to find with Thorpe on the cover. If anybody ever comes across one in much better condition and is not interested in it themselves Iíd appreciate a pm about it.




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Old 11-19-2018, 10:41 PM
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I am from The Enid area right now...I have a lot of 1912 Olympic items I’ll be posting pictures of also. Looks like we collect a lot of the same things.
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I am from The Enid area right now...I have a lot of 1912 Olympic items Iíll be posting pictures of also. Looks like we collect a lot of the same things.
Iím in Edmond, so not too terribly far away. Iíd love to meet up if it ever makes sense. Not too many vintage collectors (or stuff to find) in this part of the world.
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Iím in Edmond, so not too terribly far away. Iíd love to meet up if it ever makes sense. Not too many vintage collectors (or stuff to find) in this part of the world.
Looks like the Okies love us some Jim Thorpe. Another Oklahoma kid checking in from Norman.

Great stuff everyone. Did you see the Olympics postcard on the LOTG auction? Very strong price, I thought. I was hoping to upgrade mine but the bidding got out of my league there at the end.
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Old 11-18-2018, 12:49 PM
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This is a postcard advertising the Carlisle vs Villanova game in 1907. Very little can be found about Thorpeís contribution in 1907. First 3 games were shutouts so he probably didnít play unless he received the opening or halftime kickoff which perhaps could have happened. My speculation is since he ran 2 kickoff returns for touchdowns against 30-40 players in practice when he tried out for the team that he very well could have been used as a kickoff returner on a highly talented team that included Albert Exendine, Albert Payne, Pete Hauser and Frank Mount Pleasant. Thorpe was listed in lineup for 5th game against Syracuse and played against Penn to replace an injured Payne. It was reported that on his first carry he went opposite way of his blockers and got buried but went 45 yards on his next carry. He definitely ran a kickoff back for a TD against Bucknell in the 6th game of season. Unfortunately for him he didnít score it though! He let up a few yards from the end zone, got tripped up and fumbled into the end zone where a teammate recovered it for the TD! Most of you have probably seen this one but this one is mine and Thorpe was definitely there!




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Old 11-20-2018, 08:37 PM
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This postcard is from the 1908 season...not sure if Thorpe is on the field but a good chance with 18 players shown that he is. With the correct equipment a person might be able to tell or not. Minnesota was one of 2 teams to beat Carlisle in 1908. Thorpe was selected 3rd team All-American in 1908. Most of you have seen this card in the past or one like it I know..it now resides in my collection. Iím going to show some modern cards Iíve picked up over the years along with some of my vintage items so that when I run out of vintage items maybe I wonít bore others with new items.








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This next item is a program from Carlisle. The program covers the ĎAthletic Celebration And Presentation of Cs for 1908í held on March 20, 1909. Thorpe is listed as Captain of the track team. I believe it to be a rare program and quickly becoming one of my favorite pieces for sure. Jim is pictured with the baseball team which you rarely see so this program is really special!









































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Old 11-25-2018, 10:08 PM
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In 1912 Warner really got serious with Thorpe track wise to get him prepared for the Olympic trials starting with the Indooor season. This following program is from the 23rd Annual Indoor Games at Mechanics Hall in Boston on February 10, 1912. Many of the eventual track olympians can be found in the program. Thorpe competed in the 40 dash, 45 hurdles, high jump, 16lb shot, and 3 standing jumps events. Being a track guy I think this is a really nice program!

























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Old 11-25-2018, 10:14 PM
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Forgot to send a picture of Mechanics Hall where the meet was held. This is a period postcard.




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Old 11-28-2018, 03:36 PM
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On May 18, 1912 Thorpe participated in the Olympic Trials at Celtic Park in NY and secured his spot in the Pentathlon by winning convincingly. On May 24 & 25 he was supposed to compete in the Decathlon trials but when he and just 1 other competitor showed up the event was cancelled and he was later on added to the team based on his performance in the pentathlon trials and reputation as an all around track athlete. In his book ĎJim Thorpe-A Biographyí William A. Cook writes that Thorpeís final event prior to the Olympics came on June 8 at the Eastern Olympic Tryouts in Cambridge. In addition to a newspaper article I possess(canít find it!) in which it states that Thorpe was leaving NY to travel to the Olympic Trials in Cambridge for the selection of the Olympic team that day confirms that Thorpe was in attendance at Cambridge on June 8th. The committee took the winners that day at the Eastern Trials as automatic qualifiers and then filled in the events with other athletes. That is how Thorpe made it in the high jump and long jump and Pentathlon without competing in them at the Trials. The selection was done on June 8 after the dayís competition was over. Following is a program, ticket and panoramic photo(43in X 6.7in) of all the athletes who was up for selection and the officials involved. The photo provided is a photo of a photo as the actual photo is rolled up right now and I donít want to damage it any further. Ive added the description of the photo from when I bought it. Iíve bought a frame from the 1910ís to have the photo framed but will have a professional do it as they know how to steam them before unrolling them to prevent tears. I know there is a participation/placers certificate and medals from this event...sure would like to add those to this group. I know Thorpe is not in the program nor competed but he most certainly was in attendance so it represents a huge chapter in his life!

































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Old 11-28-2018, 03:45 PM
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When I said he was added to the team in the Pentathlon I meant the Decathlon! He would be in the photo though. However, I have not scrutinized it to see if he can be identified.
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Very nice, thanks for posting! Fun to see the famous names from back then.
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Ok..kinda get long winded sometimes so wonít say much this time..needless to say..I like this one!








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Old 12-04-2018, 03:26 PM
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I was about to head off to his Olympic stuff when I came across this 1908 14th Annual Penn Relays Program...kind of forgot about it! Thorpe competed in the Hurdles and high jump at this meet and won the high jump. 1908 was still early in his track career for sure. Thorpe actually tried out for the 1908 Olympics in the high jump but did not make the team while his teammates Louis Tewanima and Frank Mount Pleasant did.


















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To get the athletes and officials to the 1912 Olympics the Olympic committee rented the SS Finland to get them all there. A small track was installed, pool installed with harness for the swimmers among other things to allow the athletes to train. The discus throwers even drilled a hole in a discus and attached a rope to it and threw it it off the deck and then retrieved it with the rope! I have many favorite things in my collection but this one might be at the very top considering Iím a track guy! This is a passenger list for the SS Finland for the sailing to the Olympics! Only seen one of these in the years Iíve been collecting. Check out General Patton on the list also as he participated in the modern pentathlon in the 1912 Olympics!






















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Old 12-10-2018, 09:26 PM
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Iíll have to back track later to show my inauguration of the stadium ticket and opening day ticket for the 1912 Olympics..just canít locate them right now. I have several tickets for various events that Jim Thorpe was at and the one shown here is for July 12, 1912 when he long jumped 22ft 7in to place 7th that day. 2nd picture shows era real photo postcards of the SS Finland that took the team to the Olympics, 3rd and 4th photo shows various views of the Olympic stadium, 5th photo is of a stadium press pin that whoever interviewed him had to have been wearing and an ashtray sold as a souvenir and then lastly more cards. These particular cards have 2 sides so last 2 photos are of same cards and their reverse sides.




















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In 1912 the Decathlon was a 3 day event that started on July 13th and finished on July 15th. It is a 2 day event now. This ticket is a stadium ticket for the first day of the Decathlon competition. The 2nd picture is of a stadium plaque depicting the entrance of the stadium that is one of 2 bronze plaques considered at the time to be the top souvenir offered at the games. Last picture is of more cards in my collection.








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Oh my! What a beautiful card! Doesn’t get any better for the 1955!
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Easy to see the reason Joe selected #37 in the '55 AA's as one of the TOP 250..

Just an epic card!
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This next ticket is for day 2 of 3 days of the Decathlon...hope to get a ticket for the third day someday! After 3rd event on day 1 Thorpe took the lead and never relinquished it! 2nd photo are pages from a baseball magazine that came out just before the Olympics. 3rd/4th picture is of a Swedish Olympic program that has a map of venues, restaurants etc...5th photo is of a stamp that was sold for raising money for the Olympics and also a photo of Thorpe at Olympics taken by ĎThe N.Y.H. Serviceí.












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Never seen that! Did that come out of a magazine? I’m not familiar with what a Fashion Plate is...can you tell us more about its origin?
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Sure. Back in the day, clothing retailers would have large, fashion books highlighting the latest clothing lines along with fabric samples for customers to select from. The pages were made of thick cardboard about 16Ēx 20Ē which is the size of this plate. To ad some variety to the book, manufacturers would include some pages of interest other than simply fabric and clothes. This piece is framed and matted, but as I recall, the back of it had fabric swaths on it. There is one fashion plate that Iíve seen but I donít own, that pictures one of the Yankees teams of the 1920ís. I own two other plates, one is a generic baseball player in his uniform with the same player next to him in a suit and straw hat. The other is a generic golfer in the latest golf fashion. There are some plates out there that picture famous players, such as Ty Cobb, modeling suits, etc. These usually bring pretty good money. These are really getting hard to find.
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Exactly. These are extremely tough to find. Have never seen that Thorpe before. Nice piece!

I have this Royal Taylor of Frank Gotch who was a world champion wrestler in the 1910s.



Have it framed and hanging over my display case.



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Thanks for the info! Dang....find me one of Thorpe and let me know! I bet they are extremely hard to find...thanks for showing it!
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What’s also cool about that piece is that is what Thorpe studied at Carlisle...Haberdashery and Tailoring!
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Got this for the collection. 1916 Indiana Yearbook when Thorpe spent one season as an assistant coach. As you can imagine, he was heavily featured including a two page spread. IMG_20181225_221209483.jpgIMG_20181225_221317886.jpgMVIMG_20181225_221409431.jpgIMG_20181225_221430833.jpgIMG_20181225_221446031.jpgIMG_20181225_221457364.jpgIMG_20181225_221519211.jpg

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This is an original Bain photo of Thorpe throwing at the AAU All Around Championships on September 2; 1912. I had not looked at this photo in 10 years and I originally posted it here as an Olympic photo but I just realized Thorpe was not in his Olympic uniform but his Carlisle uniform so he is actually competing at Celtic Park in the photo! Really kind of thrilled because I did not think I had an original item from that meet!...first 2 photos show front and back of it. Photo 3 has some oddball items, 4th photo is of a watch fob souvenir, a pin and a bronze plaque of the stadium from the Olympics. Rest of the photos are of various stickers and cards that are primarily foreign issues. I’ve taken front and back of them and they are in same order so you can compare fronts to their backs. The very last photo is of items with blank backs except for the pep stamp.






























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Great stuff! Love that type 1 photo of Thorpe throwing the discus. I've been looking for a copy of that photo for a long time. Also love that autographed RPPC of Thorpe in his track uniform. That's really special.

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Here's an article written by Thorpe (unlikely) from October 1912 edition of The American Boy magazine. It's a neat large format publication.

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Wow. That art is awesome. Love this one.
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A little old and a little new again.

National Police Gazette November 2, 1912:



Various newspaper clippings, postcards, and Dubble Bubble Strip:



Various 1912 Olympics souvenirs/badges:





Giant Postcard and Memorial Dedication Program:





Reprint team photo and Nicaragua Picture:



U.S. Olympic Bank Note Engraving/Thorpe Memorial PC/Coin Cards:



Era Postcards of places in Oklahoma where Thorpe frequented as a young person and Haskell, KS where he attended in 1898. Born in 1887 according to his baptismal certificate yet he claims he was born in 1888. He was born in Bellemont , Oklahoma. Generally, Prague is considered his home town but he also referenced Shawnee, Oklahoma as his home town. These postcards show what the places looked like while he was frequenting those towns:





Belgium Sportsalbum...shows results of the 1912 Olympics:








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Default Other Native American Olympians

I commented in the postcard thread that I have a few photos of Native American Olympians in my archives. There was a reply that someone would like to see some of them. I thought this may be the appropriate place to show them. I have the 1912 Olympics postcard of Thorpe, but it was already posted so no reason for me to post mine. I picked it up in Sweden from someone who had multiples of almost every card in the set. I have also seen the complete set of cards in a display at the Gothenburg Sports Museum which has one of the largest collections of 1912 Olympics memorabilia. The collection was amassed by 1952 and 1956 Olympian Lars Hindmar. I met him at the World Olympic Collector's Fair in Gothenburg where he was still purchasing items at 94 years of age. As I collect Olympic photographs and autographs I generally pass on other items unless they are part of a lot that has photos or the price is ridiculously low and I can make a few dollars to purchase more for my archives. I have a large number of photos of Pre-WWI Olympians and many more of Pre-WWII Olympians. If I have one and someone would like to see a scan let me know. Anyway here are some interesting ones:

Amasoli Patasoni - A Zuni from New Mexico. He went to Haskell Institute in Kansas. Competed in the 10,000m and Cross Country Race at the 1920 Olympics in Antwerp. Very little is known about him, not even his date of death. Two photos from 1920 and one from 1922

Frank Mount Pleasant - Member of the Tuscarora Nation in New York. He attended The Carlisle School and Dickinson College. He competed in the long jump and triple jump at the 1908 Olympics. He coached football at the Indiana Normal School, now Indiana University of Pennsylvania, 1911-1913. Photo shows him competing in the long jump at the 1908 Olympic Trials.

Wilson 'Buster' Charles - Member of the Oneida Tribe. He attended Haskell Institute where he played on the football and basketball teams. He competed in the decathlon at the 1932 Olympics. Photo shows him competing in the Olympics.

Clarence 'Taffy' Abel - Member of the Soo Nation. He won a silver medal in ice hockey at the 1924 Olympics. He is also the only Native American to carry the United States flag at the Opening Ceremony of the Olympics. He would join the NHL and become the first American Olympian to win the Stanley Cup when he did it with the New York Rangers in 1928. Photo shows him in 1924 with the Olympic team manager.

Lewis Tewanima - A member of the Hopi Nation. He attended The Carlisle School and was a classmate of Jim Thorpe. He competed in the 1908 and 1912 Olympics. He won a silver medal in the 10,000m in Stockholm. The first photo shows him with a group of U.S. athletes on their way to Stockholm in 1912. He can be seen in the back row. Sitting in the front row with a stuffed bear in one hand and a cigarette in the other is Howard Drew. One of the great early Black runners. He would twice set a world record in the 100 yard dash. The person sitting two away from his right appears to be Andrew Sockalexis, though I cannot confirm as I do not own a photo of him. The second photo shows him leading in the final of the 10,000 meter race.

Lastly a Culver Archive reprint of Thorpe from the Olympic Meet in New York, June 12, 1912 at Highland Park.
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