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Old 01-14-2018, 01:14 AM
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Here you go, Steve. I resized it, and played with the levels in Photoshop so it was easier to read.



As for this discussion, I've actually spent the last hour reading each post. Mistakes happen, guys. We live in an imperfect world. I've not yet done business with Al, but would not hesitate to do so. In a hobby where there are so many unscrupulous people, Al is one of the truly good guys. He's earned the benefit of the doubt with his professionalism, and the transparency he's exhibited here is refreshing.

I understand the OP's frustration, and perhaps posting this did expedite the resolution of the issue at hand. But we have to always remember that, when an issue like this arises, it is not just one person who is affected. And, when we go public, we run the risk of damaging the reputation of the principles involved. And then things can quickly spiral out of control; piling on happens, and bickering and infighting that should be beneath all of us ensues.
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Old 01-14-2018, 05:18 PM
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Here you go, Steve. I resized it, and played with the levels in Photoshop so it was easier to read.



As for this discussion, I've actually spent the last hour reading each post. Mistakes happen, guys. We live in an imperfect world. I've not yet done business with Al, but would not hesitate to do so. In a hobby where there are so many unscrupulous people, Al is one of the truly good guys. He's earned the benefit of the doubt with his professionalism, and the transparency he's exhibited here is refreshing.

I understand the OP's frustration, and perhaps posting this did expedite the resolution of the issue at hand. But we have to always remember that, when an issue like this arises, it is not just one person who is affected. And, when we go public, we run the risk of damaging the reputation of the principles involved. And then things can quickly spiral out of control; piling on happens, and bickering and infighting that should be beneath all of us ensues.
right that's why if I was an AH and made a mistake I would communicate fast with the concerned buyer and be transparent to avoid them posting on a forum. If the concerned buyer posted after just a few days or was threatening to post after a day or so etc, I do think the plight of the auction house and their post mistake actions would have been universally defended. Guess lesson learned for all

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Old 01-14-2018, 05:33 PM
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I understand the OP's frustration, and perhaps posting this did expedite the resolution of the issue at hand.
"perhaps"? cards that went missing for a month suddenly were found. a refund check that hadn't arrived in nearly two weeks was received. both after this thread was started.
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:40 PM
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Look, this thread has jumped the shark big time.

Last year I gave Al a $30,000 card that I thought was undergraded. He agreed to submit it and paid out of his pocket to have it looked at. They came back and said they wouldn't change the grade. Card was listed. Al literally had the nicest card in my collection for 3 months. Never for one second did I have a modicum of concern about where the card was. Because Al's integrity is beyond question.

And if I'm not mistaken this thread is about a missing $25 card. What utter bullsh*T. Let me see if I understand this:

Al sells a few million dollars of cards a year. He has a tremendous amount of respect in the industry. But is going to risk all of that over a $25 card?

Ask your self if that makes any sense. It doesn't.

Move on. Mistakes happen. This has just gotten stupid on top of stupid. And I have no issue with the OP. When things go wrong we get frustrated. I get it. But enough with the silly conspiracy theories.

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Old 01-14-2018, 07:04 PM
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Move on. Mistakes happen. This has just gotten stupid on top of stupid. And I have no issue with the OP. When things go wrong we get frustrated. I get it. But enough with the silly conspiracy theories.
This. Al has done more for the hobby than the Axle of Asshattery and all the other ankle-biters combined. You guys are just making yourselves look neurotic. LOTG is an honest AH. That is an article of faith with me. More than you can say for a lot of the competition. There was a perfect storm of little screw-ups; it does not make Al "shady". Give the man a break. Would love to see this thread locked.
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:22 PM
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This. Al has done more for the hobby than the Axle of Asshattery and all the other ankle-biters combined. You guys are just making yourselves look neurotic. LOTG is an honest AH. That is an article of faith with me. More than you can say for a lot of the competition. There was a perfect storm of little screw-ups; it does not make Al "shady". Give the man a break. Would love to see this thread locked.
It doesn't appear after all the explanations that anything was 'shady' but it does appear some explanations were needed. Cant fault people for questioning some things. The listing description in the auction listing may of also been not quite accurate as well which was yet another issue.

Everyone is not black or white. Great people or companies make mistakes which doesn't define them. However, when mistakes happen transparency and explanations may be necessary according to at least some people
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:25 PM
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It doesn't appear after all the explanations that anything was 'shady' but it does appear some explanations were needed. Cant fault people for questioning some things. The listing description in the auction listing may of also been not quite accurate as well which was yet another issue.

Everyone is not black or white. Great people or companies make mistakes which doesn't define them. However, when mistakes happen transparency and explanations may be necessary according to at least some people
I agree. Good people make mistakes. An explanations were given. But for one or two people they were never enough. Started to feel like Kennedy and the grassy knoll here, 9/11 truthers, or the "faked" moon landing. Every time an explanation was given some one countered with a what if. Really enough.

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Old 01-14-2018, 07:31 PM
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This. Al has done more for the hobby than the Axle of Asshattery and all the other ankle-biters combined. You guys are just making yourselves look neurotic. LOTG is an honest AH. That is an article of faith with me. More than you can say for a lot of the competition. There was a perfect storm of little screw-ups; it does not make Al "shady". Give the man a break. Would love to see this thread locked.
+1 David, great post...
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As far as I can tell everything has been worked out by the most vested parties. I am going to take my good friend Kawika's advice and let this thread die a dignified death. If anyone can't live with this decision please pm me and we can chat about it. Thanks all.
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