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Old 12-02-2005, 06:15 AM
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Posted By: Hal Lewis

I have been "scorned" several times now (usually by the same person who always claims to be speaking for the masses) for being a "boaster" or a "show off" or a "snob" for posting pictures of my cards on this site.

Mind you, I have never just started my own thread to show scans of my cards, but have always just contributed to whatever the thread calls for.

If someone starts a thread asking for a scan of "Cobb/Wagner/Ruth/Johnson/Matty"... is everyone allowed to respond but me?

If someone starts a thread entitled "New Pickups"... is everyone allowed to respond but me?

Is there some "dollar limit" over which a card may not be shown on this board?

Heck, the MODERTATOR of this site never fails to find an opportunity to show us his "Four Base Hits" cards and other rare type cards... but I would NEVER want him to STOP doing this because I love being able to see stuff that I don't have.


HERE IS MY REAL QUESTION:

There seems to be, amongst some folks, a "reverence" or a "worship" for some of these collectors who hoard up a bunch of great cards and then "hide them away" and don't share them with others.

We always hear the mantra, "There are several old time collectors who have great cards that will never see the light of day,"... or, "I know who owns that card, but he doesn't want anyone to know."

Why is this type of collector never chastised or discussed for NOT SHARING their cards with the hobby population?

I would understand it if we were talking about making a donation to a charity or something like that. In those instances, the "good deed" is the ACTION itself, and anyone who then goes out and crows about how much they gave is not as respected as those donors who remain anonymous.

But this is different.

These are like pieces of art... and I have MUCH MORE appreciation for the art owner who lets the Museum display his art for EVERYONE to see... than I do for the crusty old hermit who has his paintings in the den where only he can see it every night -- or where he can control who sees them and who doesn't.

Don't get me wrong. I have conversed with several of these collectors, and found many of them to be very nice people. They are just very private people, and they certainly have the right to be this way.

BUT... there are still many very easy and inexpensive ways for them to share their cards with the collecting world and MAINTAIN their anonymity. They wouldn't "lose" anything"... but the rest of the hobby would gain a lot.

After all, what have these collectors accomplished if they go to their grave with their great collections but nobody ever knows about them? Isn't there something just a little off about someone who collects SOLELY for himself and just wants to be the king of his own little world?


Should these private collectors be forced to share?

NO, not if they don't want to.


But should those of us who DO choose to share with others be ridiculed or scorned?

NO, not if we are not being condescending or rude.


If I have been anything on this board, it is pleasant and humorous. If I have ever been rude or snobbish to anyone, I cannot remember it (but I certainly apologize if it happened by accident). I've always been genuine, and I am truly as excited by seeing someone win a $50 card on Ebay as I am when someone wins a $50,000 card. The beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


Obviously, I welcome civil comments about either my position or from someone who supports the opposing view.

Thanks!

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Old 12-02-2005, 06:32 AM
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Posted By: dennis

hal keep the pics coming....glad to see you post them!

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Old 12-02-2005, 06:50 AM
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Posted By: DSGreen

I really appreciate seeing scans of cards in posts. I particularly like the recent pick-up threads mostly because I nearly always see a card in those threads that I have never seen before (either in a scan or in person).

I also appreciate seeing scans of cards without mention of what people paid for the card, which is the norm on this board and I am thankful for that. I am sure this is why I have continued to lurk on this board for years and recently began posting. Many of these cards that people post I will never own and never see in person, so it is exciting to see and know that others have been able to collect them.

Someone made a statement a while back on these boards that stuck with me - "An investor tells you what it is worth, a collector shows you what he has." When I show cards that I have collected to friends and family that have little understanding of baseball cards, the first question I get is, "What's it worth?" Now I just let them know what it is worth to me.

I say that anyone willing to provide scans of cards should do so.

Forever A Brave Collection

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Old 12-02-2005, 06:56 AM
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Posted By: Cy

Hal,

Show us your cards anytime you want. You are a strong member of this board and, frankly, for every one person who thinks you are showing off, I bet there are at least 10-15 who are thrilled to see the card and happy that a good man owns that card. Continue to show us your collection. I, for one, truly enjoy it.

Sincerely,

Cy

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Posted By: Joann

Hal,

I far prefer that people share their cards. I've been to your website, and it's impressive. But while an alphabetical layout is efficient, it doesn't speak to any theme. Posts here allow duffers like me to link a variety of images directly with issues, topics, questions, commonalities, etc without having to put it together from a variety of sources, sites, etc.

Second, I love seeing the really great cards - great for rarity, condition or both - that people actually own (somehow different than seeing them on auction sites). It's a vicarious thrill, I guess - kind of like watching Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, or some Yacht-of-the-Week show or something like that. lol. Your posts in the HOF thread were breathtaking. I couldn't wait to see which one you were going to be able to put up next, with four cards each.

Finally, kind of a flip side to the second point above, I've learned something important and interesting from people's scans. Like I said, I am definitely a duffer at this. THe different scans show me that lots and lots of serious people here, well known people, will still pick up lower graded cards even in relatively common types. Somehow I had thought that everyone else was only NM and better, and I was the only one thrilled to get a Cobb Bat-off in Grade 2. I'm not sure why that was important to learn, but it was. It somehow makes the hobby seem...more inclusive? Sorry - that's poorly articulated but the best I can do.

Anyway, Hal and everyone - post post post those scans! I don't consider it showing off or arrogant in the least. It's a service to those of us that are not as advanced as many posters here.

My 1/50th of a dollar's worth.

J

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Posted By: Chris

Keep doing it the way you are doing it Hal. Like you always say Hal, people should collect what they want to and people should also share how and if they want to. I think the people who think you are being snobbish are just jealous. I don't consider any of your sharing to have been boastful. Heck I would have acted a lot more boastful if I had purchased a Wagner. I am personally thankful for people like you that are willing to share. My 13 year old son and I LOVE looking at your sight. I think you will find a majority of the people want you to share.

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Posted By: andy becker

hal,
i thought the "show off" comments were meant as a joke....at least that's the way i took them.
do i wish your cards were in my collcetion....sure. am i envious of your collection...yes.
does that mean i don't want you to show your collection? of course not!
your passion for cards has always been transparent in your posts....a collector in the truest sense.

forget about the people who are jealous.
regards

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Old 12-02-2005, 07:21 AM
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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Thanks, Folks.

Unfortunately Andy, many people have made me aware over time of snide comments that were sent to them in private e-mails from a certain individual about this issue. Thus, I can assure you that any such comments from that same individual are anything but a joke.

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Posted By: Paul Griggs

I enjoy seeing everybody's cards, including yours. No problem here. Happy collecting to all.

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