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Old 01-22-2019, 10:34 AM
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The problem is that you are grouped in with mental midgets and an e-bay return system that allows sellers to mark NO REFUNDS on their listings. You have to wait 10 days minimum after to even open an effin case. then if you call, you get the pleasure of speaking with a nimrod in the Philippines, where requests and good sense go to die.

e-bay's return policy is a complete joke and when i used to get tripped up by sellers, i would ram it right back down their throats with ANY problem PERIOD . Especially when they mark no returns. Even if it took me a month to get my $$$ back, which it usually does. Look at Amazon. Click a box and shove the crap back in the box and it's returned.

Only a licensed moron seller would have NO RETURNS. It is Insane over there. Don't take it personally, just complete jerk off sellers on e-bay and everyone knows it....followed close behind are the idiot buyers.

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Old 01-24-2019, 11:28 AM
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The problem is that you are grouped in with mental midgets and an e-bay return system that allows sellers to mark NO REFUNDS on their listings. You have to wait 10 days minimum after to even open an effin case. then if you call, you get the pleasure of speaking with a nimrod in the Philippines, where requests and good sense go to die.

e-bay's return policy is a complete joke and when i used to get tripped up by sellers, i would ram it right back down their throats with ANY problem PERIOD . Especially when they mark no returns. Even if it took me a month to get my $$$ back, which it usually does. Look at Amazon. Click a box and shove the crap back in the box and it's returned.

Only a licensed moron seller would have NO RETURNS. It is Insane over there. Don't take it personally, just complete jerk off sellers on e-bay and everyone knows it....followed close behind are the idiot buyers.
But after all that, can you tell us how you really feel?? Lol, jk!
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Old 01-24-2019, 01:41 PM
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Well, it took the package 16 days in transit to get from ATL to New Jersey,
but it made it to the next stop on 1/23. Delivered about 30 minutes ago.

I'll give the buyer a day or two to see if he contacts me to make payment again.
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Old 01-24-2019, 07:48 PM
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Well, it took the package 16 days in transit to get from ATL to New Jersey,
but it made it to the next stop on 1/23. Delivered about 30 minutes ago.

I'll give the buyer a day or two to see if he contacts me to make payment again.
A little over 3 weeks, USPS is getting faster all the time.

Glad to see it arrived for you and the buyer. I can't blame the buyer for wanting the refund and hope that since it has now arrived they quickly pay you.
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Old 01-31-2019, 05:58 PM
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The problem is that you are grouped in with mental midgets and an e-bay return system that allows sellers to mark NO REFUNDS on their listings. You have to wait 10 days minimum after to even open an effin case. then if you call, you get the pleasure of speaking with a nimrod in the Philippines, where requests and good sense go to die.

e-bay's return policy is a complete joke and when i used to get tripped up by sellers, i would ram it right back down their throats with ANY problem PERIOD . Especially when they mark no returns. Even if it took me a month to get my $$$ back, which it usually does. Look at Amazon. Click a box and shove the crap back in the box and it's returned.

Only a licensed moron seller would have NO RETURNS. It is Insane over there. Don't take it personally, just complete jerk off sellers on e-bay and everyone knows it....followed close behind are the idiot buyers.
I am one of the licensed moron, jerk off, mental midget sellers who has no returns on some of the items that I sell. Those items can be easily filtered in an eBay search so you don’t even see the listings that don’t offer returns to help you avoid future problems.
The reason I have no returns on certain, mostly newer cards is that the prices can be extremely volatile. Take the case of Jeremy Lin a few years ago. He was one of the hottest stars in basketball and some of his cards were selling for thousands. Then in a couple of weeks they were virtually worthless. If you gamble on a card - you gamble. You don’t get to return it if you guess wrong. If the player does well and the value goes higher - buyers are not going to try to return it.
Online returns are expensive. They frequently leave the seller with a shipping bill one or both ways. A lot of times the back and forth shipping can cost more than the item itself. I had this last month when a buyer purchased some card holders and bought the wrong size. I clearly gave the measurements of the holders but he ordered the wrong item and “thought it would fit”. As a seller I have to protect myself from absorbing unnecessary costs through no fault of my own. By the way, postage rates just raised for all 3 major carriers.
I go out of my way to make sure a buyer is satisfied after the sale. I hsve had shipping delays before. Sometimes a couple of weeks. Usually that is a USPS issue and they are usually very good about finding the package and letting me know that it may be delayed for a few days. Those words help to put the buyers mind at ease. I have also had the buyer file and get a refund only to have the item show up later with no offer to pay. They get a free item and the seller gets the shaft. Constant communication will help, but not always.
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:34 PM
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I am one of the licensed moron, jerk off, mental midget sellers who has no returns on some of the items that I sell. Those items can be easily filtered in an eBay search so you don’t even see the listings that don’t offer returns to help you avoid future problems.
The reason I have no returns on certain, mostly newer cards is that the prices can be extremely volatile. Take the case of Jeremy Lin a few years ago. He was one of the hottest stars in basketball and some of his cards were selling for thousands. Then in a couple of weeks they were virtually worthless. If you gamble on a card - you gamble. You don’t get to return it if you guess wrong. If the player does well and the value goes higher - buyers are not going to try to return it.
Online returns are expensive. They frequently leave the seller with a shipping bill one or both ways. A lot of times the back and forth shipping can cost more than the item itself. I had this last month when a buyer purchased some card holders and bought the wrong size. I clearly gave the measurements of the holders but he ordered the wrong item and “thought it would fit”. As a seller I have to protect myself from absorbing unnecessary costs through no fault of my own. By the way, postage rates just raised for all 3 major carriers.
I go out of my way to make sure a buyer is satisfied after the sale. I hsve had shipping delays before. Sometimes a couple of weeks. Usually that is a USPS issue and they are usually very good about finding the package and letting me know that it may be delayed for a few days. Those words help to put the buyers mind at ease. I have also had the buyer file and get a refund only to have the item show up later with no offer to pay. They get a free item and the seller gets the shaft. Constant communication will help, but not always.

excellent points here
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:02 PM
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excellent points here
I agree.
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Old 02-02-2019, 12:56 AM
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I now have also learned never to accept returns on an auction - the hard way. A couple months ago I sold a card by auction that went for $120. It was a ridiculous price for the card where 2 bidders got carried away. The buyer paid, item received and he quickly filed for a return with the reason ‘changed my mind’. I put the item back up and got $40. There is no other auction house on the planet that would accept a return for ‘buyers remorse’. An auction atmosphere where returns are allowed - other than fraud - is the opposite of what an auction is about. If you want to place bids for an item, you have to pay for it and keep it. Otherwise, leave the bidding to the adults.
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Old 02-02-2019, 12:20 PM
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I now have also learned never to accept returns on an auction - the hard way. A couple months ago I sold a card by auction that went for $120. It was a ridiculous price for the card where 2 bidders got carried away. The buyer paid, item received and he quickly filed for a return with the reason ‘changed my mind’. I put the item back up and got $40. There is no other auction house on the planet that would accept a return for ‘buyers remorse’. An auction atmosphere where returns are allowed - other than fraud - is the opposite of what an auction is about. If you want to place bids for an item, you have to pay for it and keep it. Otherwise, leave the bidding to the adults.
Once again, agree wholeheartedly where cards are concerned. Actually returning a card is pretty stupid for that reason. I have never even attempted to try.
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Old 02-05-2019, 03:34 PM
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Not every seller on eBay is a huge dealer with some crazy, massive inventory where a few returns here and there aren't going to make a difference. Some of us are just fair-to-midland collectors who ocassionally list items to sell to pay down something we've bought recently, or who move cards through that format due to a desire to change collecting focus or something like that. Personally I'm thrilled I even have the option to do something like this today; back in the 80's and 90's as a kid if you wanted to get rid of certain cards you had to go to a dealer where you would get a certain "percentage" of Beckett (the God-like Authority, cross yourself as you reference their name...) based on what they thought your stuff could be flipped for themselves.

I digress - I don't think it's unreasonable at all to clearly state that you don't accept returns. I do that with graded vintage cards where what you are getting and the standards should be pretty obvious for all. Graded, at least unlike raw vintage is more of a commodity. If you get a card and for whatever reason you aren't happy with it, in many cases it's not difficult at all just to flip it yourself. The good thing about eBay is that whether you think a return policy should be mandatory, or (like me) you could often care less - is there are plenty of options on both sides to choose from.
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