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Old 03-04-2006, 03:39 PM
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Posted By: mcavoy

If you read the old Card Collector Bulletin from the 1940-50s with the Burdick opinion editorials (you can get an idea of what these were like by reading some of the Vrechek articles), Burdick, who buy the early 50's appeared to no longer even collect Baseball cards, reported all the old material had dried up.

Burdick encouraged all collectors to acquire what they could in collectable condition (cards with no creases, no marks, and no back damage), if for no other reason than to have trade material. He noted new finds, no matter what collectors might think, would be quickly acquired and be soon unavailable. I haven't read the Trader Speaks, I have read the CCBs, and the only important differences I can see between then and today are the prices and a shift to collecting types rather than assembling entire series, but I gather from the above posts these differences appeared before 1979. The information technology is different, and I imagine information is easier to acquire passively today.

I am reminded in the mid-1980s when that huge 1951 red back find hit the market. Those $8 packs now readily trade for much more on eBay. The point is collectors will absorb new finds of vintage material with little apparent long run impact on price.

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Old 03-08-2006, 02:45 PM
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It is funny, at least to me, that nobobdy gave credit to the author of The Trader Speaks, Lew Lipset. Lew was one of the early hobby pioneers and has made a massive contribution to vintage card knowledge, history of the game etc. Of course, after The Trader Speaks came The Old Judge and then his definite 3 volumes on early cards. I just wish he hadn´t run out of energy to complete the remaining volumes of his mission. I think all collectors owe a debt of gratitude to Lew.

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I'm sure Lew is chuckling over that last post...
Dan is the only reason any of us have ever heard of Lake Ronkonkoma (sp?)

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You spelled it right. Well done.

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Thank you, professor.

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What I really enjoy about reading old publications is the progression of the hobby and how new information becomes available. Early hobby history and its formation to what we see it today is truly fascinating.

I believe if it weren't for these early publications, future generations might not know who Buck Barker, John D. Wagner or Jefferson Burdick were. They might not know how price guides started or how prefixes came to be? It sounds odd, but all that we know about the hobby right now could be lost in another generation if we don't teach it today. This is why, other than a value placed -a price guide (and the good folks at net54) is a good source of information and to promote the hobby. Frank Nagy once said that the hobby tomorrow is only as good as we make it today.
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I agree completely. Maybe I will get back to posting some early hobby correspondence soon. Also, in our Archive Center, second to the right icon in the row of them, there are several threads concerning old hobby publications etc....Here is a particularly good thread by David K. which is permanently placed there.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=241674


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What I really enjoy about reading old publications is the progression of the hobby and how new information becomes available. Early hobby history and its formation to what we see it today is truly fascinating.

I believe if it weren't for these early publications, future generations might not know who Buck Barker, John D. Wagner or Jefferson Burdick were. They might not know how price guides started or how prefixes came to be? It sounds odd, but all that we know about the hobby right now could be lost in another generation if we don't teach it today. This is why, other than a value placed -a price guide (and the good folks at net54) is a good source of information and to promote the hobby. Frank Nagy once said that the hobby tomorrow is only as good as we make it today.
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Wow back in 2006 I had hair and my teeth..
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