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Old 06-14-2018, 04:08 PM
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:10 PM
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This is the card I actually received.
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:12 PM
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You sent the wrong card, this one is in very poor condition. I can send scans. Thanks.

Yes, you ordered a low grade as I think you know.. On all the vintage low grade I have in my description in red lettering that I use factory scans and if you want a scan please ask me for one..I assume you oversaw that..No prob..Just send the card back and I will gladly refund you for the card..
Thanks and sorry about the confusion..

Card arrived yesterday, I will apply refund now
Thanks for your patience.
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:14 PM
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Card was listed as "Good condition" in the header. This card wasn't even close to good. and stock photos??? Isn't that misleading? Or am I wrong since I did not see his disclaimer? This is the first time I have ran into something like this. What kind of feedback should be left??
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:16 PM
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I found a better copy and for less money! It should be arriving soon. Here is what I need in 1952 Bowman:
1952 Bowman Baseball Card Set (252 Cards)

Cards needed: (19)

52, 101, 218, 219, 224, 230, 231, 232, 234, 238, 239, 240, 241, 242, 243, 246, 247, 250, 251
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:45 PM
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I collect variants for my sets and once bought a card from this seller based on a scan in the offer, and received a different card. When I contacted him about it I got a similar response.

I blamed myself in part because I failed to read the description to note he used stock photos. He did make a refund and I did not leave feedback at all. I do not know if ebay has any policy on stock photo listings but had I read the listing and seen it was a stock photo I would have not made the purchase and saved us both a hastle
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:08 PM
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Card was listed as "Good condition" in the header. This card wasn't even close to good. and stock photos??? Isn't that misleading? Or am I wrong since I did not see his disclaimer? This is the first time I have ran into something like this. What kind of feedback should be left??
Positive feedback should be left. This whole thing is 100% the OPs fault because he failed to read the description. It really sucks for the seller because they just lost $ on the transaction.

Several sellers use stock photos and as long as they have a great description like the seller in this case I do not have a problem with it.

Like Al I collect error cards and have done the exact same thing as Tom(OP) and Al and bought the card without reading the description. I handled the situation differently and owned MY mistake. Now make sure I read the description.
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:41 PM
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Positive feedback should be left. This whole thing is 100% the OPs fault because he failed to read the description. It really sucks for the seller because they just lost $ on the transaction.

Several sellers use stock photos and as long as they have a great description like the seller in this case I do not have a problem with it.

Like Al I collect error cards and have done the exact same thing as Tom(OP) and Al and bought the card without reading the description. I handled the situation differently and owned MY mistake. Now make sure I read the description.

I have to disagree. This is not 100% the OP's fault. The card described in the listing is "Good". I don't think anyone that has collected cards of any kind longer than 10 minutes would ever consider the condition of this card as "good". He had drawn on then erased Devil horns and goatee for goodness sake!
Now, I will say that because grading is subjective, on persons "good" is maybe going to be better or worse than another persons. I made the mistake of buying a card this way once and the seller gladly let me return the card. I have since made subsequent purchases but I always request scans of the actual cards first. If a seller is not willing to provide actual scans, I move on.
Glad the situation worked out in the end and I agree that either no feedback be left or what I believe appropriate, is to leave positive feedback but note the card was not as described but the seller took care of you.
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Positive feedback should be left. This whole thing is 100% the OPs fault because he failed to read the description. It really sucks for the seller because they just lost $ on the transaction.

Several sellers use stock photos and as long as they have a great description like the seller in this case I do not have a problem with it.

Like Al I collect error cards and have done the exact same thing as Tom(OP) and Al and bought the card without reading the description. I handled the situation differently and owned MY mistake. Now make sure I read the description.

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I have to disagree. This is not 100% the OP's fault.
+1 I disagree too. I don't have a problem with the stock photos in this auction (although I don't like it and won't buy from seller's who use them), but if you're going to list a card as "Good" then your stock photo should be of a "Good" card. If you list it as NM, then your stock photo should be of a NM card. And so on. Your stock photo should be a representation of the card/grade. Either that, or the seller should define their grading standards within the listing. But that card is not "Good." It is POOR and I think even calling it that grade is being very nice. Is there a grade lower than POOR? Really POOR?

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Old 06-14-2018, 05:59 PM
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Using stock photos may be good when selling something new in the box but not for selling collectibles where condition makes a huge difference in the value. I don't care what the seller had in his description.
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