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Old 11-18-2013, 06:31 PM
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Default Another Probstein LOL

Check out the winning bidder on this auction http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Bowman-...p2047675.l2557

Now the same exact card is for sale also through Probstein123 and check out the high bidder. LOL yes the same person that won it last time around. http://www.ebay.com/itm/370940311656...656%26_rdc%3D1
That Rick must be a great seller to sell the same card to the same person twice in a few weeks.LOL
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:33 PM
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Bidder: 1***a ( 499Feedback score is 100 to 499)
Feedback: 100% Positive
Item description: Item Title: 1952 Bowman #101 Mickey Mantle New York Yankees HOF BVG 4.5 VG-EX+
Bids on this item: 4
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Bid activity (%) with this seller: 84% Help
Bid retractions: 1
Bid retractions (6 months): 4
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:33 PM
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...and for $160 more!!!
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:45 PM
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Oh my God, here we go again. Forget the belly aching, what can be done about it? Has anyone notified Ebay from the past 50- 60 threads that have been started here over the past 2 years?? I highly doubt it... Why does this always happen every 2-3 weeks, but not a freaking thing gets done? What's the point? It's almost like being in the Twilight zone......Oh, and here comes something about Brent and PWCC.....Rick is laughing his ass off all the way to the bank....People are always responding to these threads, "well, it's good for every one to be warned, and know who the bad guys are in the hobby..." But yet, it evidently keeps on happening.... At the end of the day, not a damn thing gets done, so why the wasted energy?

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Old 11-18-2013, 07:03 PM
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And the underbidder with 248 feedbacks, also has 84% bid history with Rick.
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And the underbidder with 248 feedbacks, also has 84% bid history with Rick.
Just to clarify, is this yet another indictment on Rick, or a comfirmation on how stupid people can be, including Ebay?

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Old 11-18-2013, 07:38 PM
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My personal opinion, I don't think Rick spends any time trying to figure any of this stuff out. I think he could and should put more effort into keeping the auctions clean. In this particular auction it's a no brainer. The previous winner is bidding on this exact card again that he had won from Rick less than a month ago. You will get no complaint from Ebay either. I don't like it, but the best thing to combat this is to NOT bid in his auctions. Many will bitch about it but still bid with him???
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My personal opinion, I don't think Rick spends any time trying to figure any of this stuff out. I think he could and should put more effort into keeping the auctions clean. In this particular auction it's a no brainer. The previous winner is bidding on this exact card again that he had won from Rick less than a month ago. You will get no complaint from Ebay either. I don't like it, but the best thing to combat this is to NOT bid in his auctions. Many will bitch about it but still bid with him???
Richard- I agree, but yet they keep bidding, and bidding, and bidding...How in the hell can Ebay allow this if there is in fact "misconduct" or wrong doing? There have been several threads on this forum pertaining bid shilling and other acts by the Seller that are not allowable, by both Ebay rules and the law in general. But yet, here we are......

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Oh my God, here we go again. Forget the belly aching, what can be done about it? Has anyone notified Ebay from the past 50- 60 threads that have been started here over the past 2 years?? I highly doubt it... Why does this always happen every 2-3 weeks, but not a freaking thing gets done? What's the point? It's almost like being in the Twilight zone......Oh, and here comes something about Brent and PWCC.....Rick is laughing his ass off all the way to the bank....People are always responding to these threads, "well, it's good for every one to be warned, and know who the bad guys are in the hobby..." But yet, it evidently keeps on happening.... At the end of the day, not a damn thing gets done, so why the wasted energy?
On one hand I can see what you're saying, in that nothing will ultimately be done by Ebay or Rick to put a stop to this.

However, one way that these types of posts could possibly help is by educating the consumer so he or she can make the choice on their own to put an end to it by not bidding on Rick's auctions, or on a broader scale, not bidding on Ebay auctions in general.

Avoiding Ebay altogether is the better solution, imo, since I put the majority of the blame for shill bidding on the shill bidders themselves and Ebay for creating an environment where it can run rampant. I don't put much of the blame, if any, for shill bidding on Probstein or PWCC, as I trust that they do not shill their own auctions.

So while the seller may not have the tools to monitor 1000s of auctions, and while Ebay could give a shit since more bids means more money to their bottom line, these threads can educate consumers to avoid blatant shill bidding.

For the record, I will still occasionally bid on an Ebay auction, as I am addicted to the hobby and it's a necessary evil at times. Still, they've lost A LOT of my business over the years.
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On one hand I can see what you're saying, in that nothing will ultimately be done by Ebay or Rick to put a stop to this.

However, one way that these types of posts could possibly help is by educating the consumer so he or she can make the choice on their own to put an end to it by not bidding on Rick's auctions, or on a broader scale, not bidding on Ebay auctions in general.

Avoiding Ebay altogether is the better solution, imo, since I put the majority of the blame for shill bidding on the shill bidders themselves and Ebay for creating an environment where it can run rampant. I don't put much of the blame, if any, for shill bidding on Probstein or PWCC, as I trust that they do not shill their own auctions.

So while the seller may not have the tools to monitor 1000s of auctions, and while Ebay could give a shit since more bids means more money to their bottom line, these threads can educate consumers to avoid blatant shill bidding.

For the record, I will still occasionally bid on an Ebay auction, as I am addicted to the hobby and it's a necessary evil at times. Still, they've lost A LOT of my business over the years.
Chuck- I hear you. But again going back to my earlier post, avoiding these auctions where there is particular concern has not worked, definitely not worked. People keep coming to the trough to drink as far as these auctions go. My biggest frustration is that if nothing can in fact be done, why in the hell keep harping on it?? Why do we insist on coming back for more and more punishment??

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