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Old 03-30-2017, 04:17 PM
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Default Question re: toning on UDA baseballs

I've had my eye on both Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle UDA baseballs for years (one of those "I'm in no rush so I'll buy it when it's the right ball at the right price" things) and I am surprised what a high percentage of both have severe splotchy, uneven toning. I've never seen such consistently bad toning issues from any other particular athlete/certifier combination, and I assume I'm not the first to notice this. They all appear to be ROMLBs, but I'm assuming there must be a (now) known issue with UDA balls that were signed by Mantle or Williams during a certain timeframe?

Also, to those who might have a little bit more knowledge on these types of things, if you can find one that still hasn't toned as of 2017, is it reasonable to assume it probably won't?

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Old 03-30-2017, 04:33 PM
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I've noticed my Bobby Brown OMLB tend to tone way more than my other ones. I'm guessing a pretty fair amount, maybe all, of the UDA balls are Bobby Brown's.
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I remember talking to someone about this. I heard they had used improper chemicals to treat the leather for some period of time. I'm not sure of the years though. But basically what you said is correct, if it hasn't gotten blotchy then it will not.
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I've noticed my Bobby Brown OMLB tend to tone way more than my other ones. I'm guessing a pretty fair amount, maybe all, of the UDA balls are Bobby Brown's.


I think you're right, I believe all of them I've seen like this are Bobby Brown. Thanks for the info.


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I think you're right, I believe all of them I've seen like this are Bobby Brown. Thanks for the info.


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FWIW, I have UDA balls of Mantle w/No 7 inscription, and Williams on Bobby Brown balls and the Mabtle is Snow White with no toning, and so is the Williams. Both are over 20 years old and still look great. All luck of the draw on the UDA balls whether they are excellent or splotchy
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Old 03-30-2017, 11:01 PM
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But at this point if they haven't shown any issues yet they likely won't down the road.
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But at this point if they haven't shown any issues yet they likely won't down the road.
Yes there was a bad chemical it the hatti balls and like he said the splochyness occured pretty soon after produced. If you find one with no splotches then chances are it will be ok.
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Yes there was a bad chemical it the hatti balls and like he said the splochyness occured pretty soon after produced. If you find one with no splotches then chances are it will be ok.
Rawlings has had these issues off and on with different batches of balls over the years. The last huge one was the 2008/2009 specialty Baseballs (ASG, final and inaugural ayankees balls). When I was with Steiner we literally had multiple thousands of these signed by tons of players and within 12 months huge oil spots and splotchyness was occurring on nearly half of the balls due to a parasite that was infesting the core and leather. There was also an additional issue with the printed on ink not setting into the leather correctly for those balls either so the logos are often chipped, dull or display a very poor stamping. It's actually not as easy as you'd think to find clean signed balls for any of those three specialty balls.

Not relevant to this particular example but Rawlings still struggles with these issues.
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Rawlings has had these issues off and on with different batches of balls over the years. The last huge one was the 2008/2009 specialty Baseballs (ASG, final and inaugural ayankees balls). When I was with Steiner we literally had multiple thousands of these signed by tons of players and within 12 months huge oil spots and splotchyness was occurring on nearly half of the balls due to a parasite that was infesting the core and leather. There was also an additional issue with the printed on ink not setting into the leather correctly for those balls either so the logos are often chipped, dull or display a very poor stamping. It's actually not as easy as you'd think to find clean signed balls for any of those three specialty balls.



Not relevant to this particular example but Rawlings still struggles with these issues.


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is toning the same as spotting on a baseball? what can be done when a ball starts to tone or spot? will it continue to tone or spot? thanks
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