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Old 04-08-2017, 08:16 PM
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Ted,

Here is another gem where the 350/460 back profile was fleshed-out.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=220948&page=4

I think this thread is groundbreaking in describing the back profile for each and every subject in the 350/460 RP group, the superprint group and the 460-only group.

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Old 04-09-2017, 10:04 AM
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Good stuff Ted. Here's a snippet from one of my favorite T206 discovery threads. It was a 2008 thread--started by you--where what I call the "southern league paradox" was resolved collectively by the Net54 research community. Jamie Hull was a major contributor.

Scot

http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...ern+Leaguers+-

I'll link a few more of my favorite T206 discovery threads later.

Hi Scot

That thread was very informative. Thanks for referencing it.

And, I do miss Jamie Hull, he would chime in with some very meaningful info regarding T206's.


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Old 04-09-2017, 11:00 AM
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Hi Ted,

I would be remiss if I failed to mention my "Possible Heitman Errors" thread from February 2005 where I was taken to task by the late Joe P. for daring to question "The Monster" checklist, which at the time was regarded as gospel by some.

[I think this was the first public "outing" of Ames (Hands at Chest) and Doyle (Throwing) as potential 150-onlys and Abbaticchio (Blue Sleeves), Latham, Overall (Hands at Waist), Schaefer (Washington) and Tannehill (No "L") as potential 460-onlys--hard to believe that this has only been public information for 12 years since it is is now so commonly accepted].

http://t.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=76172

Have to chuckle now about Joe P.'s blowback. I'll always be grateful to the Net54 guys who came to my defense (including Brian Weisner, Joshua Levine, Rhett Yeakley and the late, great Jim Blumenthal) even though I was a newbie. And even Joe P. eventually came around.

Scot

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Old 04-09-2017, 12:38 PM
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Hi Ted,

Also have to cite the Net54 "Elite" surveys you spearheaded in 2007-2008 confirming that certain 150/350 guys were only available in the 350 series with the Piedmont 350 back. Those were classic.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...amp%3B++SURVEY

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Old 04-09-2017, 01:21 PM
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TedZ wrote:

** Note.. Scot Reader's excellent research revealed that these 6 subjects were printed in larger quantities, and with more Tobacco brands than any of the other subjects in the T206 set. In his book titled "Inside T206", Scot identifies these 6 guys as the " Super-Prints ".

Lastly, Ted, thanks for this acknowledgement. The existence of the six "superprints" was probably the most interesting of the discoveries revealed in my first (2006) version of Inside T206.

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Old 04-10-2017, 10:30 AM
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Hi Scot

Joe P. was quite a character, here's my story. In the early 1980's, I published several articles in Bob Lemke's BASEBALL CARDS magazine regarding 1948 - 1953 BOWMAN BB & FB
sets. There were variations and certain printing anomalies regarding cards in these sets that were not well understood in the hobby back then....and, I clarified them.

Joe P. was a serious collector of these sets, and when he read my articles, he thought I was a "genius". We met at the 1984 National in New Jersey. He was such a friendly guy who
could talk about the various aspects of sports cards for hours.

Twenty years later when I joined the Net54 forum, and began posting my collecting experiences and ideas regarding the T206 set, Joe turned against me by telling me that "I didn't
know what I was talking about". When I posted some of my early theory's (or surveys), Joe would respond with negative comments. If I did not respond to his posted comments, he
would then call me at home and tell me in no uncertain terms that I was wrong. And, there was no way that I could converse with him in a meaningful manner.

Joe had a good life, in the Military, Airlines, and as an Actor. I like to think of Joe when we first met in the 1980's. And, then again in the 1990's at Sotheby's (when they conducted
the auction that sold the "Gretzky Wagner").


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Old 04-10-2017, 12:01 PM
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Ted,
Confused...i post #2 you say "ALC selected from the 350-only series 6 subjects.."
then in post #4 you state there are "66" subjects in 350/460 series...then further on in post #8 you mention "63" subjects. maybe i am misreading subtle differences in each context?

Good stuff, thanks for compiling in one thread.
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:29 PM
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Ted,
Confused...i post #2 you say "ALC selected from the 350-only series 6 subjects.."
then in post #4 you state there are "66" subjects in 350/460 series...then further on in post #8 you mention "63" subjects. maybe i am misreading subtle differences in each context?

Good stuff, thanks for compiling in one thread.
jim

Hi Jim

The array of 66 subjects (in post #4) includes Joe Doyle, Simon Nicholls, and Bob Rhoades (who initially were intended to be continued into the 350/460 series).
However, the Major League careers of these 3 guys ended prior to American Litho printing the 460-type backs. Thus, the 350/460 series consists of 63 subjects.


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Old 04-10-2017, 12:33 PM
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understood now...so the "6" in post #2 is a typo and should be "66" selected by ALC for 350/460, and then later 3 were not printed in the 460....
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Old 04-10-2017, 02:28 PM
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understood now...so the "6" in post #2 is a typo and should be "66" selected by ALC for 350/460, and then later 3 were not printed in the 460....

In post #2......I introduce the 6 super-prints....then in post #4, I illustrate the 66 subjects that were intially selected to be included in the 350/460 series.
These 66 guys are composed of the 6 super-prints and 60 additional subjects.

But, as I have said, 3 of the 60 additional subjects were not printed because their Major League BB careers had ended. Therefore, the resulting 350/460
series comprises of the 6 super-prints and 57 other subjects


v.................................... Six super-prints ....................................v


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