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Old 04-10-2017, 08:36 AM
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I submitted a card to be graded in person at the LI Hofstra show. It was/is a 1932 Sanella Ruth. These cards are oversized and more of a thin paper stock than a stiffer cardboard. The only way I could properly store it is in a screw down holder. The representitives at the show didn't say anything when I gave them the card in a screw-down holder but I just read online that they don't grade cards submitted in screw-down holders.

Do they ever make exceptions to that rule in special situations like with the Sanella?
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I submitted a card to be graded in person at the LI Hofstra show. It was/is a 1932 Sanella Ruth. These cards are oversized and more of a thin paper stock than a stiffer cardboard. The only way I could properly store it is in a screw down holder. The representitives at the show didn't say anything when I gave them the card in a screw-down holder but I just read online that they don't grade cards submitted in screw-down holders.

Do they ever make exceptions to that rule in special situations like with the Sanella?
You and the awesome card will be fine. Chances are though you screw down will be thrown in the garbage and not returned to you.
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You and the awesome card will be fine. Chances are though you screw down will be thrown in the garbage and not returned to you.
Thank you for your help!

Here's the card in-case anyone wants to see. I'm hoping for at least a 9.

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As friendly advice, temper your expectations for the grade to avoid disappointment.
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As friendly advice, temper your expectations for the grade to avoid disappointment.
It'll be whatever it'll be. My life happiness isn't dependent on the grade this card gets but I do feel it deserves a 9.
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The screw down holder might have damaged the card. I hate for you to get your hopes up, but the card will be extremely lucky to get a numeric grade at all.

PS - I am surprised they took the card. YOU were the one responsible for getting the card out of the holder and putting it into a card saver IV (or larger, as I'm not familiar with the issue).

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The screw down holder might have damaged the card. I hate for you to get your hopes up, but the card will be extremely lucky to get a numeric grade at all.
I never knew that was a possibility. What do suspect would be the reason for not getting a # grade? I'll update with results when I get the card back but it won't be for about another month.
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I believe the holder damages the card stock and PSA always returns them as (ALTERED STOCK).
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I believe the holder damages the card stock and PSA always returns them as (ALTERED STOCK).
I did some quick research after you told me about this and it seems like PSA considers it altered stock because the pressure from the screw down holder flattens out the cardboard stock which they consider altered. Hopefully since this is more of a paper stock and not a cardboard stock it won't be flattened out by the screw-down.

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I never knew that was a possibility. What do suspect would be the reason for not getting a # grade? I'll update with results when I get the card back but it won't be for about another month.
Who did you send it in to? I know SGC and Beckett was there but I don't think PSA was. If it was SGC email Matt with any worries and he will quickly take care of it for you.

I would not worry about the altered stock because it is such a thin card to begin with. That is more for regular cards that have been smashed for several years(decades).
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