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Old 04-12-2017, 09:22 PM
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I think the one you may be talking about is the bust pose.
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I think the one you may be talking about is the bust pose.
Quite right. My bad.
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Great cards everyone.

Regarding 1888 (Fa & Fb) and 1889 (Fc) Western Association cards, I have another data point from a fellow Iowan who collects Iowa OJs (among other items). In studying pictures of his display case, it appears he has better than 20 Des Moines cards with only a single example, Kennedy, being an Fb, all others being issued in 1889 (Fc). He then also has a nice run of Sioux City which were only issued in 1889 (Fc). The Des Moines collection matches John's experience with Milwaukee (i.e. a dedicated effort to collect their respective Western Association teams which exists as primarily as Fb and Fc resulted in a nearly 100% Fc collection due to Fb rarity).

When I went after the Fb Western Association run (a single example from each team), it was relatively easy to obtain St. Louis Whites, Chicago Maroons, Kansas City Blues, and Des Moines Prohibitionists. The remainder, however, (Omaha Omahogs, Milwaukee Brewers, and St. Paul Apostles) were difficult. I leave out Minneapolis Millers since that team is almost exclusively Fa and not too difficult to obtain a single copy. On a side note, even the easier teams I listed have extremely difficult players/poses.
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Clark Griffith.
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Joe makes a good point about rarities in the 1888 cards. If you look at the Significant Rarities list in the Old Judge book (page 92), 15 of the first 17 are players who have cards solely from the 1888 WA (Veach has another card--a California League one). Additionally, if we redid the list, Taylor Shafer would no doubt be added.

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According to baseball-reference.com, there were 10 teams in the 1888 WA:
Chicago Maroons
Davenport Onion Weeders
Des Moines Prohibitionists
Kansas City Blues
Milwaukee Brewers/Creams
Minneapolis Millers
Omaha Omahogs/Lambs
Sioux City Corn Huskers
St. Louis Whites
St. Paul Apostles

the 8 WA teams of 1889 were:
Denver Grizzlies/Mountaineers
Des Moines Prohibitionists
Milwaukee Brewers/Creams
Minneapolis Millers
Omaha Omahogs/Lambs
Sioux City Corn Huskers
St. Joseph Clay Eaters
St. Paul Apostles

My only contributions of the WA:
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Jay already posted this player/pose, but I thought I would add to the "overall population" of Barnes

Pretty sure I bought this one from Jay as well...
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Here is my contribution of Kansas City players with some WA Kansas City Blues mixed in there.

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Rob-Those are some beautiful cards. I especially like than 1888 WA Swartzel.
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