NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you give an opinion of a person or company your full name needs to be in your post. Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Postwar Sportscard Forums > Modern Baseball Cards Forum (1980-Present)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 05-12-2018, 08:46 PM
Bored5000's Avatar
Bored5000 Bored5000 is offline
Eddie S.
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Fleetwood, Pa.
Posts: 857
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
Obviously it's cheap but I would argue the 89 Griffey is more important than the SP Jeter.
I would agree with that. i had not thought of that card at the time.
__________________
Flawless BST transactions with Arazi4442, wrestlingcardking and Justus.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-12-2018, 09:37 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 13,902
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by steve B View Post
If he hadn't played in NY, that would maybe be a couple hundred.
PWCC also has an SP Johnny Damon PSA 10. Damon's numbers of course were inferior to Jeters, but not by as much as you might think. HIS card is currently $70 or so.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-SP-Foi...IAAOSwcmZa7lZx
__________________
Buy high, sell low.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-12-2018, 09:45 PM
pokerplyr80's Avatar
pokerplyr80 pokerplyr80 is offline
je.sse @rnot
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: California
Posts: 2,747
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-SP-Foi...YAAOSw9V5a7la8

Sorry to me this is stupid as hell. Flip buying at its absolute finest.
That set was extremely condition sensitive. The total population for 10s at only 22, assuming that's the correct number, is very low by modern standards. It's not hard to see a difference between most 9s and 10s in hand. You will usually see chipping on the boarder and/or corners.
__________________
Successful transactions with peter spaeth, don's cards, vwtdi, wolf441, 111gecko, Clydewally, Jim, SPMIDD, MattyC, jmb, botn, E107collector, begsu1013, and a few others.

http://www.collectorfocus.com/collection/pokerplyr80
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-12-2018, 09:53 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 13,902
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 View Post
That set was extremely condition sensitive. The total population for 10s at only 22, assuming that's the correct number, is very low by modern standards. It's not hard to see a difference between most 9s and 10s in hand. You will usually see chipping on the boarder and/or corners.
OK. And?

We are talking $66K (so far). For a Derek Jeter?
__________________
Buy high, sell low.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-12-2018, 09:54 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 13,902
Default

For $300 or whatever I paid, I am content with this one. Feel free to point out the terrible flaws.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg jetersp.jpg (74.6 KB, 271 views)
__________________
Buy high, sell low.

Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 05-12-2018 at 09:55 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-12-2018, 10:12 PM
AGuinness AGuinness is offline
Garth Guibord
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 250
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
OK. And?

We are talking $66K (so far). For a Derek Jeter?
I'm confused, too. Especially since there are (currently) 22 PSA 10s out there. My best guess is that after this, one or two more hit the market, but won't do nearly as well as this one. My other guess is that some PSA 9s (currently 567 of those) will be resubmitted to see if they can get a bump, while ungraded copies and graded ones from other TPGs will also be submitted. That 22 could grow significantly for such a card that supposedly is "rare" due to being condition sensitive. Not sure the $60k+ will look that great in a few months.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-12-2018, 10:13 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 13,902
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 View Post
That set was extremely condition sensitive. The total population for 10s at only 22, assuming that's the correct number, is very low by modern standards. It's not hard to see a difference between most 9s and 10s in hand. You will usually see chipping on the boarder and/or corners.
When you talk about "most" 9s, how many of the 500+ have you personally examined? And how many 10s?
__________________
Buy high, sell low.

Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 05-12-2018 at 10:14 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-12-2018, 11:50 PM
Rookiemonster's Avatar
Rookiemonster Rookiemonster is offline
Dustin
Dustin Mar.ino
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Nj
Posts: 1,313
Default

You can’t judge this card online in a scan, a pic, or any other way. The only way you can truly see the flaws on this card is in hand. Scratches on the surface and pitting is very hard to see because it’s shiny. Evan the corners on this card a difficult to dectect. The back can be very off center. I MEAN IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A PURPLE STICKER SOOOO...... PWCC and the Greg ( purple label) commented In this article. So I guess they know that purple label and PWCC both have EYE APPEAL stickers.
__________________
Just a collector that likes to talk and read about the Hobby. 🤓👍🏼

Last edited by Rookiemonster; 05-12-2018 at 11:53 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-13-2018, 08:10 AM
Dpeck100's Avatar
Dpeck100 Dpeck100 is offline
David Peck
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 440
Default

Peter you seem to be the constant naysayer on the graded card market.

I first joined online forums in 2010 and became aware of what highly sought after graded cards were selling for at the time and the Jeter was going for just over 6k and there were at least half as many.

I would be willing to bet money you would have written at the time that someone paying that amount was just a flip buyer and that 6k is insane money for a modern day card.

Here we stand with the card north of ten times higher, the pop more than double and nothing has changed.

I can't say with any certainly what the future holds for this card but the odds of it going back to 6k are none.

The flaws on your card are obviously the upper two corners and while that is a nice copy it is clear that the card being auctioned off is nicer. I think what is tough for all collectors to wrap their head around at times is these small differences transcend into huge price gaps. It isn't going to change. The collapse of the PSA 10 isn't going to happen. Will cards come down in price in some cases? Yes but the spread between the 9's and 10's isn't going to narrow.

If anything on cards like this it is expanding.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-13-2018, 09:50 AM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 13,902
Default

David I perfectly understand the realities of the flip market, I just think it's madness. Take the 10 out of its holder, what do you think it would sell for? Put it in a Gem Mint Beckett holder, same question. A microtouch to a corner (and that's all mine is in hand, and the surface is perfect, best I have ever seen by the way) makes a difference between X and 200X? Is the opinion of some card grader who is probably no more qualified than you or I that it's Gem Mint not Mint really worth that in any meaningful way? It's all very artificial to me.
__________________
Buy high, sell low.

Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 05-13-2018 at 10:00 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Derek Jeter Autographics Purple Foil /50 came back BGS 7.5 -- talk me off the ledge? VintageGamerN00b Modern Baseball Cards Forum (1980-Present) 0 06-20-2013 02:42 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:49 AM.


ebay GSB