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Old 06-02-2018, 08:51 AM
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......we can make this happen!
The app could alert you when a card has hit 80 percent of its expected final value -- which in many cases would be within a few hours of listing.
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:21 AM
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They need to give little stars or certificates for making certain bids on their items. That would certainly stimulate bidding even further, from those who need extra third-party validation and a pat on the head... Maybe a little dunce cap logo or something.

That said, a system that in effect overrides PSA grades certainly has some philosophical validity; PSA grades are pretty tragic and too often don't reflect eye appeal whatsoever. It seems every time I search for cards, I find cards in PSA X grade that are thrown beatings by cards a full grade lower.

The dumpster fire is due in part to PSA's changing standards over time. We have cards in slabs from many years ago that look horrid, and much better looking cards graded today can't get the same grade.

End result is more onus on the end buyer/collector to issue the final and most important grade with our wallets.
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:27 AM
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Barry (hi Barry) and I were talking about this very subject recently. Hobbyist's are becoming more savvy. Just because a TPG says a card is a technical grade doesn't mean it is the best quality or has the best eye appeal, only that it meets the technical criteria for that grade. I almost never buy higher graded cards because I can almost always find a better looking one in a lower grade (cheaper to buy) holder. The registry might actually help us other collectors in that respect. Because those collectors need the point higher more than great looking cards.

As to the subject of another sticker? It's not a big deal to me. It is no more than another point of view on condition where I am the final arbiter for my collection, not anyone else.

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They need to give little stars or certificates for making certain bids on their items. That would certainly stimulate bidding even further, from those who need extra third-party validation and a pat on the head... Maybe a little dunce cap logo or something.

That said, a system that in effect overrides PSA grades certainly has some philosophical validity; PSA grades are pretty tragic and too often don't reflect eye appeal whatsoever. It seems every time I search for cards, I find cards in PSA X grade that are thrown beatings by cards a full grade lower.

The dumpster fire is due in part to PSA's changing standards over time. We have cards in slabs from many years ago that look horrid, and much better looking cards graded today can't get the same grade.

End result is more onus on the end buyer/collector to issue the final and most important grade with our wallets.
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The registry might actually help us other collectors in that respect. Because those collectors need the point higher more than great looking cards.
Totally agree. The Registry motto seems to be, "Buy The Holder, Not The Card."
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:34 AM
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Totally agree. The Registry motto seems to be, "Buy The Holder, Not The Card."
But what happens when PWCC starts its own registry?
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They need to give little stars or certificates for making certain bids on their items. That would certainly stimulate bidding even further, from those who need extra third-party validation and a pat on the head... Maybe a little dunce cap logo or something.

That said, a system that in effect overrides PSA grades certainly has some philosophical validity; PSA grades are pretty tragic and too often don't reflect eye appeal whatsoever. It seems every time I search for cards, I find cards in PSA X grade that are thrown beatings by cards a full grade lower.

The dumpster fire is due in part to PSA's changing standards over time. We have cards in slabs from many years ago that look horrid, and much better looking cards graded today can't get the same grade.

End result is more onus on the end buyer/collector to issue the final and most important grade with our wallets.
I have yet to see anyone say a card sucks for the grade.
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:37 AM
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This is such b.s., how can you know something is the top 20% or 15%, etc. of a certain population unless you have the entire population in front of you at one time to evaluate.
No point trying to bring reason or logic to bear on this. This is marketing hype pure and simple and bs is the currency of marketing.
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I have yet to see anyone say a card sucks for the grade.
Oh, I say it a ton, when I browse almost every auction,

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But what happens when PWCC starts its own registry?
Wonderful. The more registry du jour collectors the better. Then I can buy my cards cheaper!!
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I have yet to see anyone say a card sucks for the grade.
I remember seeing it once. On that green cobb that was a PSA 4 or 5 with paper loss on the back. I think the way it was described was the paper loss seems inconsistent with the assigned grade. It was in a big auction, heritage or rea.
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