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Old 06-08-2018, 08:45 AM
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It Pisses me off when they destroy history. GREEDY BASTARDS..
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:34 AM
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I will play Devil's Advocate and am glad the Scorebook got broken up. It allowed collectors-including myself-to get a piece of history at an affordable price. Additionally, the scorecard themselves are still intact, it is not as though the buyer cut the signature out of the scorecard. With all the stolen Wright documents out there, it gave average collectors a chance at getting his signature and collecting a moment of history at the same time.
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I'm not aware of stolen Harry Wright documents. Do you know of any specifically?
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:29 PM
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:44 PM
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I'm not aware of stolen Harry Wright documents. Do you know of any specifically?
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/s...5bats-001.html
https://sabr.org/latest/nash-fbi-ret...auction-seller
https://nypost.com/2013/07/28/new-yo...d-sold-online/

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Old 06-08-2018, 01:21 PM
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Thanks. Those were of course part of the Al Spalding Collection, and it sounds like most of the stolen letters were written to Wright. So that wouldn't technically be from his hand. But I'm splitting hairs- clearly there is still a lot of stolen material circulating.
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Amen, Barry. It's all about the money and similar to cutting up bats and uniforms to make chase cards. Maybe we should cut up the Mona Lisa or the Declaration of Independence so that people could get a piece. Why not? I have to admit to buying one of these sheets because Ross Barnes played in the game. I have never felt good about that purchase.
There are some out there who would gladly cut up the Declaration. Lots of rare cuts .
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Old 06-08-2018, 06:17 PM
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And they would sell them to collectors trying to piece together a collection of singers of the Decloration of Independence..
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Old 06-08-2018, 06:27 PM
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But at the same time the marketplace discounts items like:scorecards, programs, yearbooks even Who's who that have multiple autographs. In the last REA I sold a Tiger program that sold for half what I could have gotten by cutting out the Mel Ott signature. Never mind the value of the other autographs. I personally cannot cut these things up but I do not vilify those that do they are just reacting to the market conditions. And until market changes it will continue to happen.
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I once owned Wright's 1882 scorebook from his days with the Providence Grays. Unfortunately, it has long been sold. I am hoping that it is still intact.

Barry (or anyone else) - When do you think that Wright actually scored these? During the actual games, or sometime afterwards? The reason that I ask is that they are so meticulously done that it seems improbable to me that Wright actually had the time do this during the actual game. I know that the famous Kalamazoo Bat image shows Wright with what seems to be a scorebook in his hand, but I still wonder if he just took notes during the game and transposed them later on, or if he actually was able to create these fabulous scorebooks while the games were actually going on.

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