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Old 06-18-2019, 02:29 PM
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Curious - does this left border qualify as a rough cut? Not as much of the border displays the typical issue as with a normal rough cut - but the part there that looks “dinged” along the level of Nolan’s right hip to me looks like it has the properties of a rough cut and not just a one-off ding. You can see similar damage - although not as bad - both above and below that area.

Just curious - the card has gorgeous dark color, sharp corners and is nearly perfectly centered besides this issue - so I took it home from the LCS today for around the price of a 6. Did not realize how much color can vary on 69’s; I have another Nolan that was a PSA 4 which has a totally different presentation.

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A better pic of the overall presentation. Yes I just bought a scanner, but it’s at home…




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I would say no. To me, that looks more like chipping.
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I guess I'll muddy the water a bit. I agree with David there is some chipping, but that could be from the card having a rough cut. Back in the day, cards were cut with a wire. The edge of the card isn't smooth and demonstrates a rough cut, which again could cause some chipping during the cutting process.

The card presents well and looks great imo.
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I guess I'll muddy the water a bit. I agree with David there is some chipping, but that could be from the card having a rough cut. Back in the day, cards were cut with a wire. The edge of the card isn't smooth and demonstrates a rough cut, which again could cause some chipping during the cutting process.



The card presents well and looks great imo.

Thanks. Either way I think it’s probably somewhere in the 6 range. I would be happy with that.


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I would say no. To me, that looks more like chipping.
Gotta agree, rough cuts are usually pretty obvious.
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I will defer to the experts, David and Dave.
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Ok so it’s not a rough cut. (I’ve historically had trouble with this, so forgive me...) Assuming the corners are NM and nothing else egregious, what does it grade?


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If PSA calls it paper loss, which with that much chipping they might, I'd guess a 2.5. Only way to know is to send it in.
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If PSA calls it paper loss, which with that much chipping they might, I'd guess a 2.5. Only way to know is to send it in.

2.5? I think a 5 would be harsh, but like you said, who knows. I don’t plan to send it anywhere; if I would it would be SGC, and certainly not PSA given recent days. For what it is worth, I have seen more modern cards with this exact same type of “chipping“ deemed a rough cut graded Mint 9. There is literally no difference in how the small surface tears present. But as this is a 1960’s card from a set without particularly documented harsh problems with rough cuts or chipping, I’m sure it would be treated differently.


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Call it a rough cut or whatever, but those areas definitely look 'natural,' so it would be hard to stomach it if they were deemed a detraction.
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Similar damage on a ‘69 Mantle. This one is an SGC 5.






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I wouldn't call that Mick similar, it looks like a beaver got to it.
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I wouldn't call that Mick similar, it looks like a beaver got to it.


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Another ‘69 Ryan, this one a PSA 5.




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Yet another ‘69 Ryan with edge damage that’s a PSA 5. I think it’s safe to say mine is not in the 2 range...




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