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Old 06-05-2017, 09:42 AM
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Sprayed bleach and let sit for 90 seconds, then rinsed thoroughly with water using another spray bottle. Pretty easy and pleased with results. Now just need a nice orange spine.






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Didn't get quite as lucky with this one. It was way more soiled and I left the bleach on too long trying to remove the more stubborn stains. The red started to run. Even so, anything would be better than it's previous state.




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Going to try to work on that black spot a little more, without touching the lettering if possible. Maybe try to bleach out the red that ran in that area. Then a spine transplant and call it a day.





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Told you so! You gotta hang it vertically, point down and tape off the spine. Looks like you may have gotten some bleach on the Giants spine
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Yeah the spine was loose and pretty beat already and missing the tassels (the tassels that appeared in the before photos were actually from the Browns pennant laying underneath.)

I did hang vertically but what started to happen was the red paint began to run down the length of the pennant. It actually looked much worse while it was in process than it does now. I laid it flat to minimize the running which worked. I was able to dab up most of it. But I think the laying down allowed the bleach to seep under the tape. It was a lesser of two evils decision. I can replace the spine.

I should've paid more attention to the graphics on the Giants pennant as they are painted on. I know from my old travel pennant experimentation that the painted on graphics run like hell when soaked. The Browns is silk screened and suffered no adverse effect at all. Live and learn.
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Interesting. Silk screening uses paint, too. I have never had any problems with graphics but the oldest pennant I've bleached is a 1962 NL Champs. Now, you've scared off the other guys.
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Yeah it's weird...The Browns pennant which I'd say is mid-60s held up like a champ and came out great. It was my first attempt so I thought this was going to be easy.

The Giants pennant was beat to begin with so almost anything would've been an improvement. The weird thing about that one...which is suspect is a few years older than the Browns...is the red paint ran like crazy, but the blue didn't at all.

So tonight I did a soiled white 1970's era Redskins two bar helmet pennant. It's drying now but the early results appear to be an epic failure. Not only did the red in the helmet run all over the place...but the white background didn't seem to get whiter at all. The black NFL logo on this one appeared to run as well.

The results are getting worse with each attempt. You didn't experience any running paint with yours? I'm thinking maybe a more gentle bleaching agent...Oxi makes a whitening spray that is supposedly better than bleach and not as harsh.

I'm not giving up yet.
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This is scaring me from trying this with my 1976 Yankees World Series pennant. I do think paint was used on the pennant. I will have to look when I get home.

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Yeah it's weird...The Browns pennant which I'd say is mid-60s held up like a champ and came out great. It was my first attempt so I thought this was going to be easy.

The Giants pennant was beat to begin with so almost anything would've been an improvement. The weird thing about that one...which is suspect is a few years older than the Browns...is the red paint ran like crazy, but the blue didn't at all.

So tonight I did a soiled white 1970's era Redskins two bar helmet pennant. It's drying now but the early results appear to be an epic....
I coulda sworn you were gonna say "epic success."

As I said, you've probably scared off anyone else who was thinking of trying it. As I also said, I've had 100% success. Here's another I did. The previous owner underlined "National League Champions 1962" with magic marker and that did not come out but the rest of the pennant cleaned up nicely.
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As I said, you've probably scared off anyone else who was thinking of trying it.
Probably a good thing. They can thank me later.

The Redskins was a total loss. Fading and running everywhere and no improvement to the white background at all.

I'll give it another go tonight...I've got a couple more hopeless pennants to risk.
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