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Old 07-18-2017, 12:04 PM
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I'd trade the 400 homer and 2,000 hit plateaus for 3 batting titles, an MVP and Gold Glove defense.

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Old 07-18-2017, 12:47 PM
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I'd trade the 400 homer and 2,000 hit plateaus for 3 batting titles, an MVP and Gold Glove defense.
Batting titles alone won't get you there, Bill Madlock had 4.
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Not sure how a player can be punished for playing in Colorado. If it were so easy to put up fantastic numbers, why haven't more players done it?
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:32 PM
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Batting titles alone won't get you there, Bill Madlock had 4.

To be fair, one of Madlock's titles was a strike season. His numbers don't compare to Walker's though. He's at half Walker's WAR, no MVP and no Gold Gloves.

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Old 07-18-2017, 01:34 PM
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As for the initial question: yes, eventually. Who it will be, I dunno. Maybe Walker by the VC. Maybe Tulowitzki will age well (no indication of that so far). Maybe Arenado ages well.

I really don't think that pitchers should be worried about signing there (nor should agents be worried about pitchers signing there). By now everyone knows that Colorado distorts pitcher performance, and we've even got a good idea of how to adjust for it. Hampton's 2001 was just about league average, once you adjust for the fact that he was playing in Colorado at the peak of silly ball. His 2002 was dismal, it's true, but pitchers man. That could just be the inherent unpredictability of pitchers (as compared to hitters).
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:22 PM
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Not sure how a player can be punished for playing in Colorado. If it were so easy to put up fantastic numbers, why haven't more players done it?
Because they don't play half their games there.

There have been a lot of Rockies with big numbers:

Bichette, Galarraga, Castilla, Burke, Walker, Helton, Holliday, Tulowizki, Arenado, C.Gonzalez, Blackmon, Story (last year's Story)

Keep in mind, the Rockies are only in their 25th season.
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Probably condemned to the Hall of the Very Good along with guys like Jim Edmonds.
I hope that you're wrong about Edmonds not getting in.
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Old 07-20-2017, 01:46 PM
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I hope that you're wrong about Edmonds not getting in.
it'll be up to the committee as he fell of the ballot after only a year or so. IMO, if you are a Jim Edmonds fan, you should be rooting for Andruw Jones to get in as he is only 2.6 fWAR ahead of Edmonds and if Jones gets in, it buttresses Edmonds' case.

ETA: one thing that hurts Edmonds is roids. His best seasons were ages 32-35, that doesn't look very good.
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I ding Edmonds for his appearances on Real Housewives. I mean, I uh, heard he's on that show....from my girlfriend.
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I ding Edmonds for his appearances on Real Housewives. I mean, I uh, heard he's on that show....from my girlfriend.


Shouldn't they have recruited Evan Longoria for that show? Oh, Yeah. That was 'Desperate Housewives'.


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