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Old 07-24-2017, 05:21 PM
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The guys been to how many NBA Finals in a row? No significant injuries, plays harder than he has too in the regular season as well. The short layoff after a long Finals run is not to be discounted. Yeah who wants to play with a guy that goes to the Finals every year. Plus had to play without love and irving for one of the finals losses
7 in a row. Yeah, he is a cancer to his team.
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:22 PM
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Yeah gonna be like the old UNLV Runnin' Rebels, two steps over halfcourt and fire it up there.
no more rewarding a hard fought inside move with the foul and 1.......a corner 3 is worth the same as someone driving to the basket with great effort and getting clobbered and making the ft....
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:45 PM
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Man, tough critic. Your franchise was in the gutter until he came back. You've been to three straight finals and won a title. I cannot believe you are knocking LeBron.

Seriously, WTF? LOL!

I'm not a huge Lebron fan, I generally root for whatever team he's playing against, and I get annoyed with many in the media to constantly compare him to Jordan............but seriously, WTF?

The guy never gets seriously hurt either, which automatically makes him better and more reliable then nearly every other star in the NBA. Add 217 Playoff games in his career. Has he EVER missed a playoff start?

Kyrie's a weirdo and a flat earther. He's eccentric to say the least, and he wants to be the alpha on a lesser team. That automatically crosses The Spurs off the list, because Pops not going to hand the keys to Kyrie, because he will likely want an unselfish PG in the mold of a Tony Parker.

Lebron's biggest flaw is he wants everybody to be his friend. Ironically he has 2 of the biggest loners in the NBA on his team in Kevin Love and Kyrie. That's why he's always lobbying for the Cavs to bring in his older buddies from other teams to fill up the bench.

Timberwolves might be a good spot for Kyrie where he can actually win, but no way they will give up one of their young stars for him. Only guy they might give up would be Jeff Teague, who they just picked up to fill the PG role.
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7 in a row. Yeah, he is a cancer to his team.
He has quite a few Participation Trophies on his shelf, that's true. Only 3 O'Brien's in 8 tries.
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He has quite a few Participation Trophies on his shelf, that's true. Only 3 O'Brien's in 8 tries.
he got 3 championships...i hate lebron but its a cheezy argument to talk about how many Finals losses. Dan Marino would of loved to lose 5 super bowls....

its not like the atlanta braves either who only 1 won championship in that last playoff stretch...

Id like to see Jordan win a NBA championship if Pippen and another sold player were injured in the series. Its not the case that the Cavs were favored going into the NBA finals either.

Jordan was in 6 of 8 NBA finals...so that means for 2 years..he did squat....going to the NBA Finals is 10000x better than doing zilch..yeah he wasnt playing but it is what is is...people get hurt and dont play too......he didnt play...if he played maybe he loses...we will never know....Lebron cant be penalized for playing and getting to the nba finals when jordan wasnt even playing...

Pippen did win 50 plus games during at least one seasn when jordan wasnt playing ..id like to see the Cavs win 50 the last 2 years without lebron

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Old 07-24-2017, 08:26 PM
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He has quite a few Participation Trophies on his shelf, that's true. Only 3 O'Brien's in 8 tries.
How many did Larry Bird win? Julius Erving? Wilt? Oscar? West? That is one of the most absurd statements I have ever read. He is a generational player, one of the very few best of all time. Nobody can seriously dispute this. The only question is how high do you rank him. Among non-centers I would still rank Jordan ahead of him, and Magic slightly but not by much, but that's it.

You clearly have some issue with his personality but don't confuse that with his enormous basketball talent, drive and intelligence.
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How many did Larry Bird win? Julius Erving? Wilt? Oscar? West? That is one of the most absurd statements I have ever read. He is a generational player, one of the very few best of all time. Nobody can seriously dispute this. The only question is how high do you rank him. Among non-centers I would still rank Jordan ahead of him, and Magic slightly but not by much, but that's it.

You clearly have some issue with his personality but don't confuse that with his enormous basketball talent, drive and intelligence.
I do not like him personally, you're right, but I'm also judging his basketball abilities and IQ. I think he is overrated. I think he's more of a con man than a basketball player. He has manipulated the NBA to hide his weaknesses. Not to mention his game has always infuriated me, especially in his first stint with the Cavs. He overmatches EVERYONE, yet settles for 3s half the time. He ignores fundamentals such as defense and free throws. He helps guys like Draymond off the floor when he should just let them rot there until they get themselves up; whatever happened to a rivalry? Oh yeah - LeBron killed it. He is incredibly thin skinned and doesn't like when people don't like him.

LeBron is an absolute phony on and off the court. He is single handily ruining the NBA.
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As someone posted earlier, WTF.

As far as helping Draymond up, should Willie Mays not have dragged John Roseboro away from Marichal and helped him off the field? That was a great rivalry, but there is also a thing called sportsmanship even in that context. Did you somehow miss LeBron being in Durant's face in game 5? LeBron is as intense a competitor as I have seen, I have no idea at all what you are watching.
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Man did he turn down your autograph request or what? LOL

I don't watch as much basketball as I used too (I was a big fan towards the end of Bird/Johnson era and the hay day of Jordan, Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, Drexler etc...

That being said Lebron is one of the best damn players I have ever seen. Biggest negative I have to say about him was the "The Decision". But that was just a dumb marketing/Pr thing that didn't work the way he and his handlers thought it would. But that being said it did raise a ton of money for charity, so it's not all bad!

I would love to see where the Cavs would have been if he had never played for the team. How many NBA Finals did they reach before James? How many after he left? I think that number would be 0! I believe the Heat only had one Finals appearance w/o James.

Let's not forget about how he carried the 2006-2007 Cavs to the NBA Finals. That might be the worst team to ever make it to the finals. I watched a lot of their games that year as a local guy Larry Hughes was on the team and what James did was amazing!
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Man did he turn down your autograph request or what? LOL

I don't watch as much basketball as I used too (I was a big fan towards the end of Bird/Johnson era and the hay day of Jordan, Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, Drexler etc...

That being said Lebron is one of the best damn players I have ever seen. Biggest negative I have to say about him was the "The Decision". But that was just a dumb marketing/Pr thing that didn't work the way he and his handlers thought it would. But that being said it did raise a ton of money for charity, so it's not all bad!

I would love to see where the Cavs would have been if he had never played for the team. How many NBA Finals did they reach before James? How many after he left? I think that number would be 0! I believe the Heat only had one Finals appearance w/o James.

Let's not forget about how he carried the 2006-2007 Cavs to the NBA Finals. That might be the worst team to ever make it to the finals. I watched a lot of their games that year as a local guy Larry Hughes was on the team and what James did was amazing!
In recent memory that Iverson led Sixer team was worse than that 2006-2007 Cavs team.

as far as the Heat only having one Finals appearance w/o James....they would have had ZERO finals appearances without Wade....

That being said, I hate Lebron..but i would of said nobody could of lived up to the hype he had coming out of high school and heck he exceeded it. He made a lot of money for young ballers that some people thought could be the next lebron and failed... The game is changing.....tons of 3s.... its a different game today, even Jordan would of had problems if his opponents made 25 threes in a game against him.... its amazing Lebron still is impacting the game like he does with all these changes..

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