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Old 07-04-2017, 09:09 PM
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Default The problem with the shiny stuff.

I know this is football specifically but this is just unreal. Another reason to be skeptical about modern collecting. http://www.sportscardradio.com/dak-p...topen-scandal/

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Old 07-04-2017, 09:32 PM
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Do you remember the Russell Wilson fiasco a couple of years ago where they bought Seahawks jerseys from China and inserted them in cards, as game-worn? And this was in a box of cards that cost $4,000 or something...
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:55 PM
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Do you remember the Russell Wilson fiasco a couple of years ago where they bought Seahawks jerseys from China and inserted them in cards, as game-worn? And this was in a box of cards that cost $4,000 or something...
Yep. And I saw something not too long ago with some "game worn" jerseys cut up on a 1/1 (I think?), except the tags on the card were Mitchell and Ness. Can't make this stuff up.

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I know this is football specifically but this is just unreal. Another reason to be skeptical about modern collecting. http://www.sportscardradio.com/dak-p...topen-scandal/

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Wow that's bad. But at least that is detectable to trained eyes and if it was widespread I'm sure we'd know about it.

I would certainly never trust a "game used" relic/swatch/fragment of something. Basically zero way to authenticate that other than taking the companies word for it.
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The only paninis I want have cheese and meat in them.
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Nice. I ended up with four out of 25 signed Rashard Higgins 2016 National Treasures cards (don't ask, I don't even collect football or much modern), and I intend to corner that market. Never mind he is like the fourth WR on the Browns depth chart. After that, I am done with Panini.
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Are autopens that good now that they can make slight differences? Or is he just using multiple autopens?
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Panini should be held as accountable as Prescott needs to be for trying to rip off both Panini and the collectors. He was paid for his autograph. He needs to make it up to collectors for trying for autopen his sig & shame on Panini for not catching this before the cards went out.

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All of the signatures look exactly the same but were signed in different areas of the card. What a disgrace. Isn't this fraud? If he was paid, wouldn't this amount to wire fraud?
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All of the signatures look exactly the same but were signed in different areas of the card. What a disgrace. Isn't this fraud? If he was paid, wouldn't this amount to wire fraud?
Agreed on the fraud issue. I am not an attorney but this seems like a really big deal that could rattle the hobby and to some extent the NFL and NFLPA should it get more attention. Not sure if any of our many attorneys frequent this part of the board but would be interested in their take.

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