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Old 06-09-2017, 05:13 PM
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Default PSA getting tougher on factory miscuts / diamond cuts?

Just submitted this 1978 OPC Eddie Murray RC to PSA and is getting sent back Miscut, not graded.




I've also submitted about 27 T121 Sweet Caporal World War I cards in the past year and five have been returned as factory miscuts. I've only been doing the PSA grading thing for three years. Did this use to be common?
I guess I'll send them all back in and see if I get a number grade the second time. My 1973 OPC Schmidt RC came back MINSIZ. Will have to measure it this time and send it back in if it's the right size.
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:34 PM
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Would someone please remind me what a diamond cut is?


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If you look at the Murray card above, it seems as if the top of the picture itself was slightly tilted to the right, as the white background remained constant, so the upper left and lower right corners of the picture are significantly further away from the edge of the card. Hence, it appears somewhat diamond shaped.
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Diamond cut is also referred to as tilt; normally the card is the right size (2.5"x3.5"), but the image on the card slants like this one does. You can see the left border gets larger as you look from the bottom to the top of this card.
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:58 PM
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Would someone please remind me what a diamond cut is?

"Indulging someone else's ignorance perpetuates your own personal class."
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I had to look this up a while ago too.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=135892
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What would you guys grade this card? I was expecting a 7-8 grade. The rough edges are traditional to OPC cards of this era and are not normally downgraded.
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A "diamond cut" card is one where the inner picture window is rotated relative to the borders. A miscut card is one where opposing sides are not parallel to each other. The two terms are not interchangeable, although many (including some graders from major grading services) use them incorrectly.

In this case, I have to agree with PSA. The Murray is indeed miscut. This is particularly noticeable along the right and left sides of the bottom 10 to 15% of the card.

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I would treat it as a rinse and repeat almost like a minsizerq. I think an 8 is possible since OPC. Topps I wouldn't go above 7, just my opinion.
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