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Old 08-28-2017, 02:43 AM
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Lots of talk. If there was no chance, they why not sell everything and bet it all on Floyd.....easy to say no chance without betting big....
Because the opening was 25:1. In layman's terms, that means you'd bet $100 and win $4.

90% of the (number of) bets were on McGregor. 80% of the money was on Mayweather.

That means many guys laid down the $10-$100 bets, just looking for a little action, and likely MMA fans. The big money (on Mayweather) was from the guys who knew what they were doing, and (likely) do it professionally.

Finally, Mayweather admitted he tried to lay a bet on himself, and the casino he entered (undisclosed at the time) refused to take his bet.
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Lots of talk. If there was no chance, they why not sell everything and bet it all on Floyd.....easy to say no chance without betting big....
There is always the risk of a fix, or of something equivalent to lightning striking. If the odds are too high the payout just isn't worth any risk. But in sports terms this was a virtual certainty, and a joke really. IMO anyone who gave MacGregor even a realistic chance does not understand the degree of skill involved in boxing at the elite level.
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:24 AM
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I am 100% sure everything in that auction is on the up and up, it would be silly to think something shady is going on. They have a very dedicated group of bidders that would happily pay 3X the price it could be bought for normally. I know I personally do it all the time.
Ended over 3000. Let's see if the underbidder goes for the new BIN on ebay at that price.
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52 Mantle bidder, 26 retractions.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2471758.m4792
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He must have slipped through the cracks, Peter?
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He must have slipped through the cracks, Peter?
I suppose, hard to conclude much from one bidder. Awful lot of retractions though.
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Not to mention only 12 bids, all with the same seller.

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Not to mention only 12 bids, all with the same seller.
You guys are over reacting. I am 100% sure everyone of those retractions are of the non malicious type. Also they are just a very dedicated bidder with a high class operation. Really why buy something cheaper someplace else when you can pay way more with them. Hey if you don't believe me just ask Betsy.

The really funny part is if they would not have posted all the cleaning up their auction BS would we even see these threads?
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I was looking at a series of cards today on VCP and the delta between what PWCC cards sell for and all others is becoming so wide that either 1) PWCC has a lot of deep pocketed buyers that only do business with them or 2) They have an army of paid or employee bidders that are systematically bidding up cards

Is there an option 3?
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I have lots of issues with PWCC (I know, you never would have guessed lol), but I would be shocked if they are actually paying anyone to bid on cards. I would bet a lot against it, in fact. In my opinion the issue is much more likely failure adequately to discipline/prevent consignors bidding up their own, or for friends.

Speaking of all that, I guess the tell-all we were promised by Cortney never materialized.

PS I also think there is some element of guys who bid mostly or even exclusively with them, as irrational as that seems in the days of full buyer protection, generally good customer service across the ebay platform, etc.
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