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Old 03-18-2018, 09:57 AM
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Adam- great, rookie-era Jeter sig.
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:05 AM
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I agree with those who advise against buying cards for their investment value.
I believe that the past performance of cards is no indication of their future performance. The fact that '52 Mantles have gone through the roof over the last 20 years is no indication that they will continue to increase in value, or even maintain their value, over the next 20 years in my opinion.
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:44 AM
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The best of the best is the safest bet in my opinion. Art, Porsches, coins, etc. the high end has always been the safest and has highest return for decades. Now with said in cards I'm talking low- low pops. A Hank Aaron 10 will always have enough buyers with crazy money who want it. An Aaron 8 on the other hand will fluctuate with the economy /market.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:15 PM
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Like it or not, believe it or not, take it with a grain of salt. Forbes published article this February about how quality vintage cards have outperformed the S&P 500 during both the last 5 years and the last 10 years. That PWCC dude, Brent, has come up with an "index" with pretty darn solid evidence of conclusion. Thing is, remember, these are waterfront cards, not all the rest. They did not analyze cards such as T206 Lajoie, Exhibit Hornsby, Goudey Carl Hubbell, or Johnny Bench type cards which can typically be a large part of our own actual collections. And this is during one of the largest upticks in stock market history. Hmm.

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Old 03-18-2018, 01:06 PM
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I want the list of the best 500 cards
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Mike: that's why I love the card--great design and a rookie-era still decent looking signature. So many players end up stylizing their signatures to the point where they look like hieroglyphics instead of autographs.

I saw that Forbes story. Not surprising since equities shat the bed in 2008 and spent most of the last decade making up lost ground.
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The stock market collapse was at its worst rock bottom in early 2009. 3 years later, by early 2012 the DOW had recovered to it pre-collapse days. We have had 6 years of solid uptick since.
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Good for the stock market.

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Old 03-18-2018, 05:29 PM
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Nice one. And having outperformed stocks, lets get a rousing Standing O for baseball cards !
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:29 AM
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Like it or not, believe it or not, take it with a grain of salt. Forbes published article this February about how quality vintage cards have outperformed the S&P 500 during both the last 5 years and the last 10 years. That PWCC dude, Brent, has come up with an "index" with pretty darn solid evidence of conclusion. Thing is, remember, these are waterfront cards, not all the rest. They did not analyze cards such as T206 Lajoie, Exhibit Hornsby, Goudey Carl Hubbell, or Johnny Bench type cards which can typically be a large part of our own actual collections. And this is during one of the largest upticks in stock market history. Hmm.
Here's the article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidse.../#7422c61064b1

What he fails to add is the reinvesting of dividends. Most everyone reinvests dividends, and if you add them in, like you should, the return is 142% on the Jan 2008 to Feb 2018.

And what are the 500 cards? And the grades of each card?

I think he's being very selective to get his numbers to push his point.

Additionally, you can invest $1 in the S&P. I'm sure whatever the top 500 cards are, you aren't getting one of them for $1.

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