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Old 02-01-2019, 09:39 PM
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Why do people keep falling for this clown??? Yes Jose, I'm talking about you

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Old 02-02-2019, 11:20 AM
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I understand he is a well known forger, but how does he get JSA certs?
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Old 02-02-2019, 11:22 AM
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Last year, I bought a 1963 Fleer Ken Boyer from him. It is one of the three remaining cards I need to complete the autographed set. I sent it in to PSA for authentication and it came back as "likely not authentic." I contacted him and asked for a refund, which he granted. Not knowing any better, I returned the card with the PSA paperwork and moved on.

About 6 months later, the same exact card came up for sale again. I reported it to Ebay, but they didn't take action and it ended up selling for more than I had paid previously.
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Old 02-02-2019, 11:49 AM
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Ken Boyer, Hubbs, multiples of each. People keep on buying and people keep on authenticating. His favorites are Kirby Puckett and Walter Payton. Most get by the TPAís. If you look at some of his other garbage, itís all the same light pressure hand with light pen as to make it look smooth. Look at the Maysí too. A bunch of his encapsulated stuff is garbage.
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Old 02-02-2019, 12:39 PM
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Whats even more amasing is he has 100% feedback which people are buying into. Doesn't Ebay have a policy that you can't give a seller negative feedback or something like that?

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Old 02-02-2019, 01:04 PM
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It's the other way around. Sellers can't leave negatives for buyers, assuming they paid for the item. The thing about feedback is that it's mostly a rating of the seller's service. Obviously if someone buys the item, they believe it's authentic. So as long as the seller sends a nice email thanking them for their bid, packages the item well and ships it out fast, they're more than likely going to receive positive feedback. It has little to do with the authenticity of what they sold.
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Old 02-02-2019, 02:24 PM
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Last year, I bought a 1963 Fleer Ken Boyer from him. It is one of the three remaining cards I need to complete the autographed set. I sent it in to PSA for authentication and it came back as "likely not authentic." I contacted him and asked for a refund, which he granted. Not knowing any better, I returned the card with the PSA paperwork and moved on.

About 6 months later, the same exact card came up for sale again. I reported it to Ebay, but they didn't take action and it ended up selling for more than I had paid previously.
The problem is you are out the fee for PSA. I assume it was Jose correct? This guy is such a thief. I hate to be on a rant, but people come out of the woodwork to make comments on another Mickey Mantle "good or bad?thread, but this guy just keeps on selling his forgeries with barely a scant comment from the peanut gallery.

Another Ebayer selling numerous forgeries is AVIT Consultants (sp?) in California. They sell tons of deceased stars and others signed in a light hand, light ink soft flow. I'm sure they and Jose are connected.

At least if they pass a TPA people are putting their trust in the opinion of someone that should know better. With $600 on a Walter Payton signed RC. Come on man.............
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Old 02-02-2019, 05:41 PM
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Hey Jason,
I’m right there with you...my history with Jose is well documented here. Still don’t understand how he continues to pass this crap.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:25 PM
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Iím not afraid to say he got me and I know you arenít either. Itís part of the autograph game, but you generally donít expect people who used to participate in net54 to be thieves and criminals. Live and learn I guess. I just hate to see good collectors that donít know better continue to get had.

For all that have read these threads about him, all I ask is to please pass it on to all your autograph collecting friends. This guy is a thief and nothing more.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:34 PM
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Those are horrible.

It is a shame to ruin all those cards. And a shame that he is not locked up.
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Old 02-03-2019, 11:12 AM
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The problem is you are out the fee for PSA. I assume it was Jose correct? This guy is such a thief. I hate to be on a rant, but people come out of the woodwork to make comments on another Mickey Mantle "good or bad?thread, but this guy just keeps on selling his forgeries with barely a scant comment from the peanut gallery.

Another Ebayer selling numerous forgeries is AVIT Consultants (sp?) in California. They sell tons of deceased stars and others signed in a light hand, light ink soft flow. I'm sure they and Jose are connected.

At least if they pass a TPA people are putting their trust in the opinion of someone that should know better. With $600 on a Walter Payton signed RC. Come on man.............
I'll give you a comment. Not only is this guy a licensed F Face loser, You should stop buying at e-bay altogether. I know it's hard because it's SOOOOOO FUN to watch these illiterate moron buy and sell complete garbage. At the end of the day, protect your own and don't worry about the other clowns wasting their $$$ on forgeries and the losers that shear the unsuspecting boobs.

Anybody spending 6 beans on a Walter Payton card is an imbecile in any case PERIOD. So there's my e-bay rant for the 3rd time today. I hope that helps you Duluth!

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Old 02-03-2019, 06:38 PM
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Problem is I bought from him off of the Net54 board and not eBay. I know you hate eBay Chuck, but I just build a small percentage in to my buys for having to deal with idiots. There are a lot more built in protection than there used to be to recover your money. Most of his buyers donít realize theyíve been had until the TPA says no which is sometimes too late.
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Old 02-03-2019, 06:40 PM
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BTW,
Chuck I thought you might know him as he claimed to be a San Fran / Oakland area guy. I thought I remember you were from No Cal as well
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Old 02-04-2019, 09:12 AM
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Problem is I bought from him off of the Net54 board and not eBay. I know you hate eBay Chuck, but I just build a small percentage in to my buys for having to deal with idiots. There are a lot more built in protection than there used to be to recover your money. Most of his buyers donít realize theyíve been had until the TPA says no which is sometimes too late.
Same here...He ripped me off on Net54 after a few others vouched for the authenticity of the Walter Payton signature...
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Old 02-04-2019, 11:30 AM
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Same here...He ripped me off on Net54 after a few others vouched for the authenticity of the Walter Payton signature...
The Payton autos he has look good to me. Thatís why I donít offer my opinion on autographs. I donít want my opinion to affect someone financially - either by buying or not buying an autograph. I am not qualified to do so.
In this market with so much authenticated stuff out there, you have to purchase it certified - at least anything over $100. When I opened my store, I took everything with an autograph to a tpa and had it certified. Then I got rid of the stuff that would not pass. Before I sell an item it is tpa authenticated. I donít want the bad karma of selling fake stuff.
The main reason you would buy a piece raw is to save money - but thatís a big gamble. Sure, a certified Payton rc is big bucks if you can find one. His was probably much less and buyers have to question why - the same with those who buy 1952 mantles for $500 or less. This particular seller has a ton of certified stuff - then a few pieces (the biggest ones) not certified. The only reason I can think is that they wonít pass.
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Old 02-04-2019, 12:41 PM
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Same here...He ripped me off on Net54 after a few others vouched for the authenticity of the Walter Payton signature...
Ouch, I did not realize... Points well taken. Sickening.

I'm from the So Cal SFV area.
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Old 02-04-2019, 01:32 PM
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The Payton autos he has look good to me. That’s why I don’t offer my opinion on autographs. I don’t want my opinion to affect someone financially - either by buying or not buying an autograph. I am not qualified to do so.
In this market with so much authenticated stuff out there, you have to purchase it certified - at least anything over $100. When I opened my store, I took everything with an autograph to a tpa and had it certified. Then I got rid of the stuff that would not pass. Before I sell an item it is tpa authenticated. I don’t want the bad karma of selling fake stuff.
The main reason you would buy a piece raw is to save money - but that’s a big gamble. Sure, a certified Payton rc is big bucks if you can find one. His was probably much less and buyers have to question why - the same with those who buy 1952 mantles for $500 or less. This particular seller has a ton of certified stuff - then a few pieces (the biggest ones) not certified. The only reason I can think is that they won’t pass.
I am thankful for the help from all here. After trying many years, I am just not good at authenticating. My personal buying "pain point" is $200. Maybe $600 is "chump change" for this buyer.

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Old 02-04-2019, 01:43 PM
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My next big purchase above my "pain point" will be a Ty Cobb cut. You can bet I will be begging for input from this forum before I would buy. I don't care if it has a good TPA or not. :-)

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