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You can't support what Kaepernick did, and then not support owners for taking the stances they are. Kaepernick used his 1st Amendment right to protest (wrong forum and a completely fraudulent issue if you ask me). The owners and fans are using their 1st Amendment rights as well. This isn't a one way street.

He also has garbage mechanics and owes his success to Harbaugh.
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You can't support what Kaepernick did, and then not support owners for taking the stances they are. Kaepernick used his 1st Amendment right to protest (wrong forum and a completely fraudulent issue if you ask me). The owners and fans are using their 1st Amendment rights as well. This isn't a one way street.
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I just can't stand him. Period.

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You can't support what Kaepernick did, and then not support owners for taking the stances they are. Kaepernick used his 1st Amendment right to protest (wrong forum and a completely fraudulent issue if you ask me). The owners and fans are using their 1st Amendment rights as well. This isn't a one way street.

He also has garbage mechanics and owes his success to Harbaugh.
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How do you guys feel about Muhammad Ali?
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How do you guys feel about Muhammad Ali?
Can't stand him, but at least he fought actual racism.
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That's not really the path I was headed down. Patriotism and doubts surrounding it tie Ali and Kaepernick together. Ali refused to go to Vietnam. Kaepernick kneeled during the anthem. I find it hard to understand how someone could see Ali in a positive light and Kaepernick in a negative one.
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That's not really the path I was headed down. Patriotism and doubts surrounding it tie Ali and Kaepernick together. Ali refused to go to Vietnam. Kaepernick kneeled during the anthem. I find it hard to understand how someone could see Ali in a positive light and Kaepernick in a negative one.
Right, and I don't respect Ali for dodging 'Nam, but his reasoning is validated way more than Kaepernick. There's the difference.
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There is a lot of black and white opinions (no pun intended) on the subject but from a purely black and white perspective one man dodged his country during a war and another knelt during an anthem played at a sporting event.
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This is from a while ago, but Benjamin Watson's letters on the intersection of race and football (he wrote another a few years ago) are always well reasoned and worth a read. Link
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