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There's a wealth of information there. I bet with a loupe we can determine the exact timing of the shot.
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Are the numbers on the left of the scoreboard the lineup? If so, check the numbers vs. the known numbers assigned to the players, then you will know who the pitcher is. Probably in the number 9 spot.
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Here's one I never thought I would be posting, since I am not really a fan of football (soccer), but still cool none the less. I think this is either 1906 or 1907, based on when the players were on Sunderland. Some of the players I could not find anything on. Those I know are Tommy Tait, Billy Hogg, Angus McIntosh, Jimmy Gemmell, James Watson, English McConnell, and Arthur Bridgett. Anyone know the others?
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There's a wealth of information there. I bet with a loupe we can determine the exact timing of the shot.
Hi Jeff....I spent about an hour looking through a magnifying glass but couldn't come up with the teams to check against their 1913 schedules. I started to use some profane language.
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If that’s Matty in the picture, and it really is from August 1913, then I’m pretty sure the picture was taken on Tuesday, August 26, when Matty shut out the Reds 1-0. In the two games on the right side of the scoreboard, “PITTS” is the visiting team in the top game, and “PHILA” is the home team in the bottom game. In August 1913, the Giants played at home from the 14th through the 27th, with Matty pitching three of those games, on the 16th, the 21st, and the 26th. But the game on the 16th was against Pittsburgh, so that can’t be this game, assuming that the scoreboard listed the present game first in the upper left, as was/is standard practice at ballparks. On August 21, Matty best the Cubs at home, but Pittsbugh played at Philadelphia, so the scoreboard doesn’t fit. On August 26, however, Pittsbugh played at Boston and St. Louis played at Philadelphia, which fits the scoreboard in the picture.

We can also tell that it’s the top of the first with two outs, and the pitcher appears to be looking at a runner on first. The Reds did not score in the top of the first in that August 26 game, but Retrosheet doesn’t have play by play info, just the box score. If there is a runner on first, then the (unseen) batter would be Armando Marsans.
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If that’s Matty in the picture, and it really is from August 1913, then I’m pretty sure the picture was taken on Tuesday, August 26, when Matty shut out the Reds 1-0. In the two games on the right side of the scoreboard, “PITTS” is the visiting team in the top game, and “PHILA” is the home team in the bottom game. In August 1913, the Giants played at home from the 14th through the 27th, with Matty pitching three of those games, on the 16th, the 21st, and the 26th. But the game on the 16th was against Pittsburgh, so that can’t be this game, assuming that the scoreboard listed the present game first in the upper left, as was/is standard practice at ballparks. On August 21, Matty best the Cubs at home, but Pittsbugh played at Philadelphia, so the scoreboard doesn’t fit. On August 26, however, Pittsbugh played at Boston and St. Louis played at Philadelphia, which fits the scoreboard in the picture.

We can also tell that it’s the top of the first with two outs, and the pitcher appears to be looking at a runner on first. The Reds did not score in the top of the first in that August 26 game, but Retrosheet doesn’t have play by play info, just the box score. If there is a runner on first, then the (unseen) batter would be Armando Marsans.

Love this stuff. And to confirm David's scenario of there being 2 outs and a Reds runner on first, that situation happened. I found the play by play (see below). Looks like Groh was on first with two outs.
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Was wondering if there might be a thread covering post war postcards somewhere I.E Dormand, Ford Tigers, Bill and Bob's and generic club issues etc. ?
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Just stumbled into this 2014 episode of the Antique Roadshow. Not sure who the appraiser is, but his estimate value seems very low, even four years ago! Maybe they were trying to buy the cards after the show since the owner bought them for ten bucks from a garage sale.

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1906 RPPC of the Lancaster Red Roses (there is a print version that is more common). I haven't lined up face ids yet, but the team had Cy Barger, Bill Chappelle, Rube Dessau, Patsy Dougherty, Tom Downey, Bull Durham, Ed Lennox, and Chief Meyers.
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I'm going for the run of early 30's Tigers postcards and landed this unused one recently. I have also discovered that there are color variations of some, which will lead me on more chases.

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Just picked this up today. It is a printers block for a circa 1907 Columbia Ball Park in Philadelphia Postcard. I don't own the postcard shown in the last pic, I just wanted to show which postcard was made from this block.
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Was wondering if there might be a thread covering post war postcards somewhere I.E Dormand, Ford Tigers, Bill and Bob's and generic club issues etc. ?
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Mark, there is a small thread over on the postwar side. I love postwar baseball cards and will probably start posting to this thread soon.

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If that’s Matty in the picture, and it really is from August 1913, then I’m pretty sure the picture was taken on Tuesday, August 26, when Matty shut out the Reds 1-0. In the two games on the right side of the scoreboard, “PITTS” is the visiting team in the top game, and “PHILA” is the home team in the bottom game. In August 1913, the Giants played at home from the 14th through the 27th, with Matty pitching three of those games, on the 16th, the 21st, and the 26th. But the game on the 16th was against Pittsburgh, so that can’t be this game, assuming that the scoreboard listed the present game first in the upper left, as was/is standard practice at ballparks. On August 21, Matty best the Cubs at home, but Pittsbugh played at Philadelphia, so the scoreboard doesn’t fit. On August 26, however, Pittsbugh played at Boston and St. Louis played at Philadelphia, which fits the scoreboard in the picture.

We can also tell that it’s the top of the first with two outs, and the pitcher appears to be looking at a runner on first. The Reds did not score in the top of the first in that August 26 game, but Retrosheet doesn’t have play by play info, just the box score. If there is a runner on first, then the (unseen) batter would be Armando Marsans.
David,

Thank you for taking the time to research this photo. Great job! I couldn't make out the teams on the scoreboard, now I can see Pitts, St. Louis and Philly.
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Love this stuff. And to confirm David's scenario of there being 2 outs and a Reds runner on first, that situation happened. I found the play by play (see below). Looks like Groh was on first with two outs.
Peter,

Great find, seems to tie David's research all together. Thank you.
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Just stumbled into this 2014 episode of the Antique Roadshow. Not sure who the appraiser is, but his estimate value seems very low, even four years ago! Maybe they were trying to buy the cards after the show since the owner bought them for ten bucks from a garage sale.

https://www.tpt.org/antiques-roadsho...postcard-sets/
definitely a low estimate...but most appear to have holes in them! A more accurate etimate nowadays would be more like 40K or so!
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Another postcard requiring some experts to help ID the players. I've identified the ballpark as the old wooden version of League Park and the players also appear to be wearing 1909 Cleveland home uniforms. The action seems to be a rundown between 1st and 2nd with Lajoie probably playing 2nd base. Bob Rhoads pitcher?
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Jim, here you go on Matty.

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1906 RPPC of the Lancaster Red Roses (there is a print version that is more common). I haven't lined up face ids yet, but the team had Cy Barger, Bill Chappelle, Rube Dessau, Patsy Dougherty, Tom Downey, Bull Durham, Ed Lennox, and Chief Meyers.
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NL President John Tener at Cooperstown. Anyone know what year this was? According to the back he is "Eulogizing the originator of baseball" - Abner Doubleday?
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Thanks Dan and by the way I will be submitting a group of 500 to 1000 post war postcards in the next Brockelman auction.
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Thanks Marty! I think it is really fun when you can ID the players, but it sure is easy to fall into a Google hole when trying to do it.

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Another postcard requiring some experts to help ID the players. I've identified the ballpark as the old wooden version of League Park and the players also appear to be wearing 1909 Cleveland home uniforms. The action seems to be a rundown between 1st and 2nd with Lajoie probably playing 2nd base. Bob Rhoads pitcher?
Jim - so I took some time to look into this one. I agree that the player (pitcher) in the back is wearing a 1909 (or earlier) Cleveland home uniform. Then I thought to check to see which umpire that is. From there I figured I can find home games where that ump, umped first base.

The ump in that pc looks pretty young. In 1909 Billy Evans was 25. The next youngest ump was Bull Perrine at 32. So maybe it's Evans. He umped either solo (from behind the pitchers mound?) or 1B thirteen times in Cleveland in 1909. Against six different teams. So now let's look at the base runner's uniform.

Checking Dressed to the Nines, I am having a hard time placing the base runner's uniform. I'll spare everyone the details but according to that book, no AL team had white/gray caps with that thin stripe for their road jerseys, except Chicago. But their road jerseys were dark.

So I dunno Jim. I do think the first baseman could be the big right handed George Stovall, the second sacker could be Lajoie and even Rhodes the pitcher, but I am not sure how to take any of this further.

If anyone can confirm the team uniform of the base runner that could only help whittle it down a bit. And that's IF we think it's Billy Evans. (See pic below of him from 1910)

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Time to resurrect this classic thread.

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Love the postcards. PC's may be the only thing left that haven't been tinkered with by scam artists over the years.



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