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Old 05-05-2018, 07:45 AM
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Default Walter Johnson 3x5 cut?? Help please....

First, thanks in advance for your time. I am a long time vintage collector and surprisingly never joined this forum in the past.

Thoughts on this Walter Johnson cut- PSA/DNA quick opinion was “Unable to Render Opinion??”



The tail in the “r” of Walter and the “son” of Johnson have me concerned. I have closely matched to many PSA/DNA and JSA examples but have not found one that I say “yes.”

This is from EBAY and seller guarantees the authenticity but I’m looking for opinions before proceeding. Seller also sold cuts from Ruth, Ott and Lajoie and has a PSA DNA Ruth for sale.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Walter-John...vip=true&rt=nc

Your timely thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated.

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Old 05-05-2018, 05:50 PM
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Hey Scott! I can't believe it took you this long to come over to net54, but welcome (for whatever it's worth to the regular posters here - which probably isn't much - I have known and traded with mainemule for years via other online platforms and can vouch for him as a serious and dedicated collector of HOF autos).

Anyway, to your question about the Johnson you've posted, I think it's an interesting example. I like the flow of the sig overall, and while it's been a while since I purchased my Big Train and did the according research, my first instinct in the signature itself was positive. However, you've pointed to some anomalies in the sig relative to known exemplars (good to do your research).

I don't personally like to say that an autograph is authentic or not (unless it is a very clear forgery, which there are too many of in this hobby but which I don't believe this one to be). Instead, I like to state whether I would buy it for my own collection. In that regard, I probably wouldn't add this one just because of my general skepticism of cuts like this (in combination with the anomalies you list). It's kind of a "when there's a bit of doubt, best to pass," especially with the amounts of money we are dealing with (I have no idea what you paid for this because I haven't clicked on the link).

I know that probably doesn't help with the seller (if you decide to return), but that's what I got.

And stick around here, man, there is a wealth of knowledge. Sometimes there is an understandable hesitance to help new posters with opinions because there have always been people popping in with questionable motives, but I hope that others will take my word that you're a legit collector and chime in with their own opinions here.
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Old 05-05-2018, 07:14 PM
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Looks like it sold already, and very cheap...which is usually a good indication that the people the know WJ weren't feelin' it.

P.S. Welcome to the board!

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Old 05-05-2018, 07:58 PM
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Wayne, thanks for your welcome and your comments! As you know, I found FCB when the Beckett Board changed and I posted there in the early years. As life got in the way, I was able to continue collecting but posting on boards became difficult for me. I'll check this Board out in more detail and maybe I can be a resource in some areas.

To further explain my collecting passions, I am a PSA DNA HOFer auto collector (on 3x5's and GPC's for the most part- have 237 different HOFers), a Ted Williams super collector and a collector of various vintage sets (56 -58 Topps, 53 Bowman are some highlights).

With regards to this Johnson, I am actually the winning bidder. I tried the PSA QO with no results provided. Seller understands I am trying to establish comfort with the item and will let me walk if I desire.

I knew of this Board and figured more veteran collectors would better provide information to me then on FCB, where I have a long history and autos of this nature are not so widely discussed.

Anyways, I hope this explains my "maiden voyage" here and I welcome other comments. I do appreciate your comments mr2686/Mike and welcome.

Scott

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Old 05-05-2018, 08:54 PM
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Wayne, thanks for your welcome and your comments! As you know, I found FCB when the Beckett Board changed and I posted there in the early years. As life got in the way, I was able to continue collecting but posting on boards became difficult for me. I'll check this Board out in more detail and maybe I can be a resource in some areas.

To further explain my collecting passions, I am a PSA DNA HOFer auto collector (on 3x5's and GPC's for the most part- have 237 different HOFers), a Ted Williams super collector and a collector of various vintage sets (56 -58 Topps, 53 Bowman are some highlights).

With regards to this Johnson, I am actually the winning bidder. I tried the PSA QO with no results provided. Seller understands I am trying to establish comfort with the item and will let me walk if I desire.

I knew of this Board and figured more veteran collectors would better provide information to me then on FCB, where I have a long history and autos of this nature are not so widely discussed.

Anyways, I hope this explains my "maiden voyage" here and I welcome other comments. I do appreciate your comments mr2686 and welcome.

Scott
Welcome! I still spend time on FCB but am constantly blown away by the knowledge and collections of people here; and the focus is definitely different.
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Old 05-05-2018, 09:26 PM
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Welcome! I still spend time on FCB but am constantly blown away by the knowledge and collections of people here; and the focus is definitely different.
Thanks Jeff, I recognize your name from FCB

I had in the back of my mind that this place was maybe a more seasoned or experienced audience to look at an older piece (like this auto).

I'm hopeful to get some other opinions on the cut as I need to make a decision whether to purchase this early next week.

Best to you, Scott
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Old 05-06-2018, 05:36 AM
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This is a WaJo that I had about a year ago if it helps.

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Old 05-06-2018, 07:17 AM
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This is a WaJo that I had about a year ago if it helps.

Thank you!
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Old 05-06-2018, 07:24 AM
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Thanks Jeff, I recognize your name from FCB

I had in the back of my mind that this place was maybe a more seasoned or experienced audience to look at an older piece (like this auto).

I'm hopeful to get some other opinions on the cut as I need to make a decision whether to purchase this early next week.

Best to you, Scott
Welcome to the forum, Scott. As far as our ages, I think I like seasoned better than old. Many of us are well seasoned. For a Big Train auto you can always get his grandson's thoughts as he posts mainly on the card and memorabilia sections. ...if I can ever help with anything board related just shoot me a PM, I am usually around. Take care and happy collecting.
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:17 AM
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I'm really curious about this one now. I hope that some of our experienced WaJo collectors will chime in here.
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