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Old 02-19-2006, 09:20 AM
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http://www.nydailynews.com/02-19-2006/sports/baseball/story/392741p-333046c.html

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Old 02-19-2006, 11:51 AM
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They should be falling all over themselves to make things right. They could have paid off the man and gone public with a "we messed up but we've reformed and we stand 100% behind our product" storyline. Instead, they let themselves be villified in the press. How many thousands of casual collectors or would-be collectors are going to read the article or see the HBO piece and conclude the UD is dishonest. Paying $85,000 to cover one stupid error isn't worth millions of eyeballs on bad publicity.

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Old 02-19-2006, 12:41 PM
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Posted By: Richard Simon

There are more questionable cards out there, besides the $85,000 card.
The Brill Report submitted scans of cards to an unnamed authenticator, who deemed several of them to be forgeries.
I have also displayed 4 cards on my website which have been deemed by many to be forgeries.
www.richardsimonsports.com/hofauto2.htm
UD has opened a whole can of worms here and they won't be able to put a lid on it.
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Maybe this will finally scare the adults out of the modern card market. Imagine a world where collectible trading cards are made for kids! What a concept.

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Old 02-19-2006, 02:03 PM
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Posted By: Larry

Bring Back Gum cards with gum or candy in series' only,no sets obtained directly... maybe a promotional card in a pack occasionally(autographed or limited edition) and make it fun again, maybe young kids will care about cards o/w, we are dinosaurs.

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The Book 'Card Sharks' details Upper Deck management and business practices from 10 years ago. Great to see nothing has changed.

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While this is not exactly a forgery, at Sotheby's last auction there was one of these autographed cards with a cut of Alexander Cartwright. Interestingly, a few years ago I handled some documents that came from the Cartwright family that were family trees written in Cartwright's hand listing generations of aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. When I saw the cut I recognized that is was from one of those documents. I went back to my photocopies and determined that it was not a signature at all, but Cartwright merely listing the name of a descendent sharing the same name. While it was in fact in his hand, it was not his signature. The way one signs a check is not the same way one would write his name when say filling out a form. I pointed it out to the higher-ups that this was not a signature and even brought my photocopy with me to prove my point. As you might imagine, it fell on deaf ears and the piece I believe sold for five figures. Is that an autograph? I think not.

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Posted By: Richard Simon

Barry - do you still have the catalog from that auction?
If so can you scan me the card?
richsprt@aol.com

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Old 02-19-2006, 06:23 PM
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Richard- I have both the catalog and a copy of the document. I can scan both for you, but it will have to be tomorrow night. I won't forget.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

If "Ty Cobb" wrote "Ty Cobb" on a sheet of paper, to me that is a Ty Cobb autograph. He may not have been "signing" at the time, but so what, he still wrote his name.

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