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Old 12-13-2016, 03:54 AM
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Default 3 Thru the Bat!

Seems We Have 3 Scratches Thru the Bat!

Pat R's 3rd Mr. Mathewson, Mike's Mr. Miller Fielding & my Mr. Stone's(LHV)!

I Wonder if We Keep Studying these if we Would Eventually be Able to Figure Out Weather THeY Came From the East or West Coast Produced Cards!?
Or at Least Separate the Production SiGHTs!?

I do Believe THaT Mr. Mark MaCrae 's Deep Due Diligence has brought ta LiGHT
Sum Really Cool Evidence! (imho anyways)
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:10 PM
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It's been 1 1/2 years since the last post in this thread but here are a
few new ones to add to the list.

Bradley E90-1.jpg

E90-1 Brown.jpg

E90-1 Jennings.jpg

Miller E90-1 B.jpg

Keeler E90-1.jpg

There are two new chase scratches

this one

Chase E90-1 4.jpg

and this one which is also an exact match with a new Clarke scratch

Chase E90-1 3.jpg Clarke E90-1.jpg

Chase E90-1 3 - Copy.jpg

some of the scratches are hard to see with the smaller scans
you can veiw larger scans using this link all of the newer scratches
are at the end of the album.
https://imageevent.com/patrickr/e901platescratches?n=0
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These are my only two E90-1s with plate scratches. Both are Tannehills, I have a couple others without. Sorry, doesn't appear that these are new additions to your list
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New one in Scott's auction a Groom that matches one of the Mathewson's
and one of the Stone (left hands).
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E90-1 Mathewson.jpgE90-1 Stone.jpg
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Here's another new scratch a Heitmuller that's in the LOTG auction.
It's an exact match with the Tannehill Rob posted a couple posts up.

Heitmuller Back.jpg

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Great thread Ed! I have nothing to add but I'll be following along.
I really don't have anything to add either, but I can't resist asking if all the scratches smell the same?

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Although not very savvy about the T206's, are the scratches just on the backs? If so, is this related to the fact that just the fronts were coated during the lithography process?
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Although not very savvy about the T206's, are the scratches just on the backs? If so, is this related to the fact that just the fronts were coated during the lithography process?

For both T206s and E90's, the scratches found so far and studied just happen to be on the backs.

They were printed from stones, which weighed a lot being 2-4 inch thick pieces of limestone. A bit of debris could scratch the stone, leaving an area that would now hold ink.


It's probable that the scratched ones were mostly backs for a few reasons,

The back stone got used for a much longer time- as we've seen, on multiple different front sheets.

Being single color, and an ad, the scratches probably didn't merit redoing the whole stone. A scratch creating a line of color on the front might have. (Plus, there were at least 6 front stones)


Not all front problems got fixed, and it's probable that each position can be identified. Generally a scratch will correspond with any flaws found on the front. A real find would be a front with a flaw that doesn't have the scratch on the back. That would mean that that particular exact subject/position was printed both before and after the scratch happened.

Pat would know better, but I don't think any have been found.
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Joss pitching plate scratches
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Nice info on the process...

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For both T206s and E90's, the scratches found so far and studied just happen to be on the backs.

They were printed from stones, which weighed a lot being 2-4 inch thick pieces of limestone. A bit of debris could scratch the stone, leaving an area that would now hold ink.


It's probable that the scratched ones were mostly backs for a few reasons,

The back stone got used for a much longer time- as we've seen, on multiple different front sheets.

Being single color, and an ad, the scratches probably didn't merit redoing the whole stone. A scratch creating a line of color on the front might have. (Plus, there were at least 6 front stones)


Not all front problems got fixed, and it's probable that each position can be identified. Generally a scratch will correspond with any flaws found on the front. A real find would be a front with a flaw that doesn't have the scratch on the back. That would mean that that particular exact subject/position was printed both before and after the scratch happened.

Pat would know better, but I don't think any have been found.
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