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View Poll Results: So with the benefit of history, is the guy who started the 1952 Topps Bartirome craze
Yes - he still overpaid versus what he will be able to sell the cards for 39 42.86%
No - he's going to make a net profit when he liquidates 11 12.09%
Yes, even if he makes money - he's still a fruit loop 32 35.16%
No, his idea is so good - I want to try it on another 1952 topps card 9 9.89%
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:02 AM
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Default So, is the 1952 Bartirome guy crazy?

So, the 1952 Topps Bartirome card is now consider one of the 10 most expensive cards in the set. So, was the guy driving the price higher crazy - like people said at the time or visionary (meaning he created a craze and will like make money off of it)?
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:12 AM
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I was going to say that hes about ten cents short of a dollar, but then I considered some of his off-the-forum antics and decided hes about ten cents short of a dime.
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Was the guy banned here ?

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Set collecting is losing popularity outside of the t206 set. The hobby has shifted towards rookie cards and superstar cards. Buying up a 1952 high number common is not a money maker. He is causing a few people to over pay, but in the end his beneficiaries will end up with a bunch of cards that will sell for a fraction of he paid for them.
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:55 AM
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Was they guy banned here ?
Yes he was banned.

My only question, since his hoard has not hit the market that I know of, was he doing it to make $ or just have some fun manipulating the card market?
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:57 AM
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He's still buying, not sure if he has sold any. They appear pretty infrequently even in auction houses
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:19 PM
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Set collecting is losing popularity outside of the t206 set. The hobby has shifted towards rookie cards and superstar cards. Buying up a 1952 high number common is not a money maker. He is causing a few people to over pay, but in the end his beneficiaries will end up with a bunch of cards that will sell for a fraction of he paid for them.
IMO, there is indeed an increase in popularity with RC and star cards.

However, set collecting does not appear to be losing popularity with collectors. There are several complete sets on the registry I used to be ranked solidly in the top 20, now I am ranked in the 30s-40s for the active sets( I have not gone back and done any updating). This has happened in the past 2-3 years.

A prominent advertiser on this board auctions off 20K singles a week, 15k+ are commons....if set builders aren't buying all of these commons, I don't know who is.

If building the 52 set is losing popularity, the prices are not indicative of this. While I am 29 HI #s short of completion now, in Jan 2016 I was 40% complete and had an ATF rank of 120. Now a similar set has an ATF rank near 140. That means over the past 2.5 years, nearly 20 additional 52 sets have surpassed the point I was at in Jan 2016.

Ironically, fwiw, some years ago I picked up a psa 5 332 card for less than $150.
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So, the 1952 Topps Bartirome card is now consider one of the 10 most expensive cards in the set. So, was the guy driving the price higher crazy - like people said at the time or visionary (meaning he created a craze and will like make money off of it)?
Judging by previous sales, I'd say he has created some higher prices, especially the recent sales through PWCC.
https://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/ba...rome-332/23351

Despite what people say about the guy, if he were to cash out responsibly/intermittently, I have no doubts he'd likely make out pretty good money wise based on the sales seen above.
Here is the 21 page post that was started back in 2015.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=211710

This is a recent PWCC sale.
https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...ction/1814952/

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Many people are buying on speculation they can sell to the hoarder. Once prices drop, I have a feeling people might run for the exits. Therefore, it is in his best interest to overextend, even when, or if, he plans on selling off.
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Many people are buying on speculation they can sell to the hoarder. Once prices drop, I have a feeling people might run for the exits. Therefore, it is in his best interest to overextend, even when, or if, he plans on selling off.
I never assumed that, I just thought people were purchasing the card based on how popular the card has now become.

In all honesty, I just figured the guy was out of the hobby and was no longer trying to collect them, but then I read your post and read he was still active.
I assume he is on other forums/sites?

Any idea if he is still "aggressively" collecting them or has he slowed considerably the last little while?
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