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Old 06-29-2018, 06:15 PM
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Correction. If your numbers are via steroids, you don't have HOF numbers. The same way that your 95 out of a 100 on a college or high school test is not a 95 when you're discovered to have cheated.

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Old 06-29-2018, 08:53 PM
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Totally agree with Derek in the first response to this post. It's always felt (to me) that A-Rod has a very structured plan for his life, both during and after his playing days. This likeable announcer portion seems dead set on minimizing his "time-out" period to enter the hall of fame ASAP.
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Old 06-29-2018, 10:09 PM
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Correction. If your numbers are via steroids, you don't have HOF numbers. The same way that your 95 out of a 100 on a college or high school test is not a 95 when you're discovered to have cheated.
Not a fan of steroid users, but a players numbers via steroids were off of other players using steroids.
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Old 06-30-2018, 02:08 AM
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... a players numbers via steroids were off....
Glad you agree with me
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:59 PM
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Steroids aside, he made every team worse when he got there, and better when he left.
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:13 PM
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Steroids aside, he made every team worse when he got there, and better when he left.
He changed teams twice in 22 years. That seems a pretty bold statement.
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Old 07-01-2018, 10:32 PM
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I don't know if it's an act or not, but I've been very impressed with his analysis, demeanor and what presents itself as some level of humility.

Did the process of getting caught multiple times and reaching the end of his career humble him or is it all an act? I have no idea.
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Old 07-02-2018, 05:04 PM
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He changed teams twice in 22 years. That seems a pretty bold statement.
I know.

From 1995- 2003 The Yankees were pretty much THE team in the AL. (Yes, and it pains me to say that)
They went to the WS 7 times in 9 years, and won 5. Including 4 in a row.

Arod arrives and thankfully they experience a historic collapse.
Arods swatting play was a key moment in that.
That collapse eventually changed the outlook of Boston fans.
(Right after, when the announcer was calling it the worst collapse in baseball history I commented to my wife that "That's just one more thing they've taken from us" A few days later it was all ok! )

After that?
04-16, 13 years One WS win, Missed the playoffs 4 years, and were mostly out after the divisional series. The year he was out they did better than the years with him just before and after.
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The Rangers

1998, 99 first in the division
2000 pretty bad
they sign Arod to a big contract.
2001 to 2003, still last while he put up some of the best numbers of his career. I believe his salary prevented them from building a better team.
He leaves, and they go from 4th to 3rd for a few years.
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Mariners

Ok, I may be wrong on them. Pretty bad pre Arod, competitive with him, and except for 2001, not all that good after he left.

Or.... They made the playoffs a few years, but weren't really all that close other years, including two straight third place out of four finishes.
How did they do the year after he left?
116 wins. But they ran up against the pre- Arod Yankees in the ALCS.
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A Rod was the MVP in 2005 and 2007. I somehow don't think his 48/130 and 54/156 dragged down the Yankees. I doubt it did in other years either when he was putting up very good numbers. I think you're oversimplifying what is almost certainly a complex situation as to why the Yankees' run of success mellowed out.

As for Texas, sorry but that's just not at all persuasive. Going from 4th to 3rd?
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:29 PM
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A-roid will make the HOF, just as soon as it places a premium upon lying, cheating, scamming and scheming. I like him and Mendoza so much that I watch the Sunday night ESPN game mute.

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