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Old 03-12-2019, 08:20 AM
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We know law enforcement isn't going to go after them for forged signatures.

But, you'd think Upper Deck and the other manufacturers WOULD take an interest in someone counterfeiting their licensed product. In my view, that is a much more viable avenue to make these crooks pay.
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Old 03-12-2019, 09:18 AM
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In general, buyers beware of pre 2000 autographs. Grading companies will not grade them as company authenticated cards. They have to go through the authentication process because so many of the companies who made autograph cards went through some sort of warehouse sale or bankruptcy and the cards are prone to forgery since blanks went out.
It doesn’t seem like this is an Upper Deck issue. They are out of the baseball business.. I would think this is more an mlb / nyy/ Derek jeter issue since they are counterfeiting mlb intellectual property and logos and the image and name of Derek Jeter. I would love to see them involved in protecting their license.

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We know law enforcement isn't going to go after them for forged signatures.

But, you'd think Upper Deck and the other manufacturers WOULD take an interest in someone counterfeiting their licensed product. In my view, that is a much more viable avenue to make these crooks pay.
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Old 03-12-2019, 09:39 AM
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Chris,

Great work! Very informative write up. I've been wanting to add a Jeter autograph to my collection and I would have been fooled by this.
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:05 AM
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I sent a message to TNTnorthjersey If they are source then the fact that I live in NJ is going to be a problem for them. I will reach out to family members in law enforcement and see if I can get any traction.
Fingers crossed, TNTnorthNJ is one of the worst sellers on eBay. They get hundreds of negative feedback comments every year as far back as I can remember, but do so much volume their feedback rating is 99%+. I bought something from them over ten years ago and never got the item or a refund (this was before Paypal and all the buyer protection rules) so whenever something of theirs comes up in my search I check to see if they've cleaned up their act. The answer is always no. I've never understood why eBay never did anything about them.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:36 AM
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very nice cottage industry. What a business idea? Some people have no pride or integrity. What goes around comes around PERIOD.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:50 PM
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We know law enforcement isn't going to go after them for forged signatures.

But, you'd think Upper Deck and the other manufacturers WOULD take an interest in someone counterfeiting their licensed product. In my view, that is a much more viable avenue to make these crooks pay.
The same Upper Deck that got caught faking their own product?


Not likely.



I wonder if these cards are actually faked by the same people faking the autograph, or if they landed on a stockpile of in house fakes from UD?
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Old 03-12-2019, 02:15 PM
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Chris,

Great work! Very informative write up. I've been wanting to add a Jeter autograph to my collection and I would have been fooled by this.
Thank you, Andrew.

I can understand those who aren't familiar with Jeter's autograph to get fooled by this.
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Old 03-12-2019, 02:18 PM
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Good job - thanks for posting .
Thank you, Matt.

I should posted that blog two months, but I guess better late than never.

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Old 03-12-2019, 02:19 PM
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The same Upper Deck that got caught faking their own product?


Not likely.



I wonder if these cards are actually faked by the same people faking the autograph, or if they landed on a stockpile of in house fakes from UD?
I agree.

Upper Deck does not care.

Steiner Sports doesn't care either.
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Old 03-12-2019, 05:32 PM
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Default Another seller with same fake

Here is another listing where the lettering on card is off...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/382824833594

Safe to assume the auto is bad too...
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